Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Sign In with OpenID
Advertise on LowEndTalk.com

In this Discussion

Looking for some beta testers for our new Wyvern release and KVM services (again).

Looking for some beta testers for our new Wyvern release and KVM services (again).

KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

I want to apologize in advance for creating a new thread instead of bumping the old one but I feel all of the off-topic posts in the old one drowned out my posts.

I've pushed another re-write of Wyvern and I fixed a lot of the bugs people had issues with so I'm looking for our (hopefully) last round of people to test it out. As with before, please use the link below and include your LET username in the notes when ordering. DON'T PAY THE INVOICE! Once I review the order I'll manually create your service and delete the invoice.

https://securedragon.net/clients/cart.php?a=add&pid=263

The VPSs will expire next week and we would appreciate any and all feedback, both good and bad. We have a lot of features in the works so your feature requests will help us prioritize our development. Please report any issues you experience or anything that acts differently than you'd expect it to. Lastly, I am working on better documentation so anything you'd like clarification on feel free to ask so I can be sure to add it to the documentation. Thanks!

Please note that some features are disabled due to current hardware limitations like the backups, snapshots, and migrations. These features do work and we expect them to be enabled in the future.

-Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
«1

Comments

  • shellshell Member

    i want to try but maxmind don't like me
    my isp http://bgp.he.net/AS17451

    "Fraud Check
    MaxMind Error
    Your order has been flagged as potentially high risk and therefore it has been held for manual review."

  • @shell said: i want to try but maxmind don't like me
    my isp http://bgp.he.net/AS17451

    "Fraud Check
    MaxMind Error
    Your order has been flagged as potentially high risk and therefore it has been held for manual review."

    The same thing happened to me.

  • LordSpockLordSpock Member, Provider

    Cool, placed an order. Looking forward to testing this.

  • jenkkijenkki Member

    shell said: i want to try but maxmind don't like me

    MaxMind beta testers :)

    Thanked by 1tux
  • @windytime90 said:

    @shell said: i want to try but maxmind don't like me
    my isp http://bgp.he.net/AS17451

    "Fraud Check
    MaxMind Error
    Your order has been flagged as potentially high risk and therefore it has been held for manual review."

    The same thing happened to me.

    Me too

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    Please be advised that I am not manually verifying accounts for free services. If you get blocked by our automated systems I apologize but you won't be able to obtain a free VPS at this time.

    Also if you don't provide accurate account info you won't be able to get a free VPS either since our TOS is still in effect. Thanks! :)

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • Hm, never had a problem with MaxMind unless you're using a proxy/VPN.

    I provide real information, and things just work ;)


    @KuJoe

    Looked over the last thread and it looks awesome. I'll sign up for one if there's any left.

  • @FlamesRunner said: Hm, never had a problem with MaxMind unless you're using a proxy/VPN.

    I provide real information, and things just work ;)


    @KuJoe

    Looked over the last thread and it looks awesome. I'll sign up for one if there's any left.

    Because my ip from Vietnam ): although I provided my real information.

  • jenkkijenkki Member

    hieuhuynh said: Because my ip from Vietnam ): although I provided my real information.

    MaxMind going nazi? :0

  • LeonnLeonn Member

    why so many guys were marked as fraud?

  • jenkkijenkki Member

    Leonn said: why so many guys were marked as fraud?

    Probably they don't want you as client. Under political or other views.

  • @jenkki said:

    hieuhuynh said: Because my ip from Vietnam ): although I provided my real information.

    MaxMind going nazi? :0

    This is situation of us when order hosting, domain, server from foreign providers, some guys who scam, cheat them then we having been affected for many years and must be shamed. So boring...

  • MrPsychoMrPsycho Member
    edited April 20

    So I'm getting kernel panic while I'm trying to install Debian 8.7 64bit.
    https://s13.postimg.org/jwfu2s8uv/secure.png
    Product ID in WHMCS: 23145, IP ending at .123, so you can have a look at it by yourself

    Ultra Affordable VPSs - if you can find cheaper ones let me know! Zero downtime for over a year! | 6GB KVM VPS for $5,99/mo!
    Hybrid Servers - create customizable VPSs on dedicated node managed by wishosting.com | 1TB KVM Storage VPS for $14,99/qt!

  • imokimok Member

    Signed up for one

  • BochiBochi Member
    edited April 20

    Signed up for this second round of beta testing, let's see if there is anything left to be found. :)
    One odd thing that I noticed: The cart showed a monthly rate of $9.98 until checkout, but that might have been a WHMCS glitch...

    /EDIT/ Is WHMCS supposed to show a white page if clicking on a "View Details" with a services marked as pending?

  • Just signed up, will wait for the activation. Kudos for the work on the custom panel

  • vedranvedran Member

    @KuJoe said: Please be advised that I am not manually verifying accounts for free services. If you get blocked by our automated systems I apologize but you won't be able to obtain a free VPS at this time.

    Wait, so beta testing your product (which will expire in one week) for free still counts as free VPS? Whoever is willing to do this is doing YOU a favor, not the other way around ...

    Thanked by 3PremiumN WSS jvnadr
  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @vedran said:

    @KuJoe said: Please be advised that I am not manually verifying accounts for free services. If you get blocked by our automated systems I apologize but you won't be able to obtain a free VPS at this time.

    Wait, so beta testing your product (which will expire in one week) for free still counts as free VPS? Whoever is willing to do this is doing YOU a favor, not the other way around ...

    It's free by definition and due to the inability to verify an account based on their payment details I'd rather err on the side of caution when it comes to testing a new software and service.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • WSSWSS Member

    Translation: It's nice to have people to help test my product (especially for free), but this place attracts the dredge of the internet, and I don't want to have to explain why my small network was doing rather bad things to men wearing suits and ties.

  • twiigltwiigl Member

    My order got cancelled even I've passed maxmind check, why?

  • edited April 20

    Lets see if i can get in the door! Probably not forgot to put my dam LET username in the notes. Hahah. But I will say as a previous customer of secure dragon they were great!

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @WSS said: Translation: It's nice to have people to help test my product (especially for free), but this place attracts the dredge of the internet, and I don't want to have to explain why my small network was doing rather bad things to men wearing suits and ties.

    That and I want people who might actually test it and not people just looking for a free VPS. You might noticed I lowered the bandwidth to 10GB because people were "testing" our network ports in the first two rounds of testing but didn't reply to the thread or open a ticket with any feedback (which I think means it either went well for them or they didn't care about the service and just needed free bandwidth for a week).

    @twiigl said: My order got cancelled even I've passed maxmind check, why?

    The only orders I've cancelled have been ones without their LET username in the order notes.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @Leonn said: why so many guys were marked as fraud?

    The most common reason is the country they are located in. We manually block a handful of countries.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • BochiBochi Member
    edited April 20

    Well, seems as if I'm stuck right at the beginning.
    This is what I get after mounting an ISO:

    Ok, forget about it - I failed...it't too late already.
    Thought the "reboot" (stop / start) was automatically performed...

  • jenkkijenkki Member
    edited April 20

    KuJoe said: The most common reason is the country they are located in. We manually block a handful of countries

    That what I talking about. Can you share your list of harmful countries?

    twiigl said: My order got cancelled even I've passed maxmind check, why?

  • BochiBochi Member

    Hey @KuJoe, are the nearly 16GB of allocated RAM a bug or is this just the setup hidden behind the "KVM-SSD-512M" for testing? :P

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @Bochi said: Hey @KuJoe, are the nearly 16GB of allocated RAM a bug or is this just the setup hidden behind the "KVM-SSD-512M" for testing? :P

    It should be 512MB allocated with a max limit of 16GB. I'll set the max limits to match the RAM for the service.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @jenkki said:

    KuJoe said: The most common reason is the country they are located in. We manually block a handful of countries

    That what I talking about. Can you share your list of harmful countries?

    twiigl said: My order got cancelled even I've passed maxmind check, why?

    Unfortunately I don't want this thread to go any more off topic than it already is. Sorry.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • BochiBochi Member

    @KuJoe said:

    @Bochi said: Hey @KuJoe, are the nearly 16GB of allocated RAM a bug or is this just the setup hidden behind the "KVM-SSD-512M" for testing? :P

    It should be 512MB allocated with a max limit of 16GB. I'll set the max limits to match the RAM for the service.

    Well, this might explain it. :)

    In other news: I added a few IPv6 via the panel (one selected and 10 random ones in a batch).
    It took the panel quite some time to come back and now there is no way to start the server again. Whatever button I hit, it seems to stay offline.
    So I removed all of them, but the VPS still shows as offline and start / stop / restart doesn't seem to have any effect.
    This said, I find the usability at this very point to be kind of a PITA. You can add the v6s in a batch, but you have to remove them one-by-one and everytime the page gets reloaded and you have to navigate to the respective tab again.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @MrPsycho said: So I'm getting kernel panic while I'm trying to install Debian 8.7 64bit.
    https://s13.postimg.org/jwfu2s8uv/secure.png
    Product ID in WHMCS: 23145, IP ending at .123, so you can have a look at it by yourself

    I made a small change to Wyvern and rebuilt your VPS, it looks like the ISO is working for you now.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • jenkkijenkki Member

    KuJoe said: I don't want this thread to go any more off topic than it already is.

    No, its not offtopic, you only avoid answer.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @Bochi said:

    @KuJoe said:

    @Bochi said: Hey @KuJoe, are the nearly 16GB of allocated RAM a bug or is this just the setup hidden behind the "KVM-SSD-512M" for testing? :P

    It should be 512MB allocated with a max limit of 16GB. I'll set the max limits to match the RAM for the service.

    Well, this might explain it. :)

    In other news: I added a few IPv6 via the panel (one selected and 10 random ones in a batch).
    It took the panel quite some time to come back and now there is no way to start the server again. Whatever button I hit, it seems to stay offline.
    So I removed all of them, but the VPS still shows as offline and start / stop / restart doesn't seem to have any effect.
    This said, I find the usability at this very point to be kind of a PITA. You can add the v6s in a batch, but you have to remove them one-by-one and everytime the page gets reloaded and you have to navigate to the respective tab again.

    I believe the delay is from having to ping each IP before assigning it to a VPS, I'll look into this to see if I can reduce the delay.

    Can you send me some info about your VPS so I can check to see why it might be offline?

    As for removing the IPv6 addresses, I will look into adding a checkbox system or something but it's harder to run a "bulk" remove since somebody can add hundreds of IPs and then try to remove them all at once which will result in Wyvern timing out and potentially breaking something. I think I might have an idea though but it won't be until down the road.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • WSSWSS Member

    @KuJoe Why are you bothering to ping the address, first? Why not have them in a nice usable Redis table you can pull/remit to, and a background process which writes to DB?

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @jenkki said:

    KuJoe said: I don't want this thread to go any more off topic than it already is.

    No, its not offtopic, you only avoid answer.

    Yes it's completely off topic for this thread. Sorry.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider
    edited April 20

    @WSS said: @KuJoe Why are you bothering to ping the address, first? Why not have them in a nice usable Redis table you can pull/remit to, and a background process which writes to DB?

    I blame SolusVM, ever since I used SolusVM I now lose sleep at night thinking IPs are being assigned to multiple clients. For OpenVZ it will throw an error but for KVM it lets both clients use the IP and they each just get packet loss and can sniff the other's traffic. SolusVM was notorious for assigning IPs but not marking it in the database so now I have that fear in the back of my mind that Wyvern will assign an IP and right before it can be updated in the database something breaks and then two clients will get the same IP eventually. SolusVM would assign an IP that was in use for months to a new client and then piss of our old client when their traffic was being sent to somebody else.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
    Thanked by 2WSS mikho
  • WSSWSS Member

    @KuJoe said: I blame SolusVM, ever since I used SolusVM I now lose sleep at night

    I thank god every day that I'm not (yet) back in this industry. I'm guessing that there's no cohesive way to parse through the Solus DB to see what it currently has set and just setup a background "Did you take my IP" process?

    This reminds me when Someone was having issues with Solus repopulating old data into host settings after migrating them to another node. We never got an answer what or where that came from- but there was a patch that "fixed it". My guess is that they used some magic temp db/file structure to store that to work around a DIFFERENT bug, then forgot to actually fix it.

  • BochiBochi Member

    KuJoe said: Can you send me some info about your VPS so I can check to see why it might be offline?

    Sure, I'll send you a PM shortly.

    @KuJoe said:

    @WSS said: @KuJoe Why are you bothering to ping the address, first? Why not have them in a nice usable Redis table you can pull/remit to, and a background process which writes to DB?

    I blame SolusVM, ever since I used SolusVM I now lose sleep at night thinking IPs are being assigned to multiple clients. For OpenVZ it will throw an error but for KVM it lets both clients use the IP and they each just get packet loss and can sniff the other's traffic. SolusVM was notorious for assigning IPs but not marking it in the database so now I have that fear in the back of my mind that Wyvern will assign an IP and right before it can be updated in the database something breaks and then two clients will get the same IP eventually. SolusVM would assign an IP that was in use for months to a new client and then piss of our old client when their traffic was being sent to somebody else.

    But is this really a problem in this case?
    You are assigning a proper /64 anyway and let only choose from that one, so ideally there shouldn't be any conflicts. But better safe than sorry I guess.
    And regarding the timeout: Maybe spawn a background process and simply disable the tab for the time beeing?

    And regarding the API: Any chance for some basic documentation to play around with it?

  • @KuJoe damn I forgot to add my username on the order, sorry KuJoe

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @Bochi said:

    But is this really a problem in this case?
    You are assigning a proper /64 anyway and let only choose from that one, so ideally there shouldn't be any conflicts. But better safe than sorry I guess.

    Right now I just have a single function for checking IPv4 and IPv6 for both OpenVZ and KVM, I can probably break that out into separate functions and disable the pinging requirement for IPv6 since you're right and all of the IPs will be on the same /64.

    And regarding the timeout: Maybe spawn a background process and simply disable the tab for the time beeing?

    I'm planning on doing a rewrite once I get KVM working properly that will offload a lot of the heavy lifting to the nodes themselves which will improve performance but will reduce error checking. If I had a better grasp of AJAX I could make the control panel much better but my knowledge of JS is pretty limited.

    And regarding the API: Any chance for some basic documentation to play around with it?

    Right now it just reports bandwidth usage. Nothing fancy but the framework is there for me to eventually add more functionality to it.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • jtkjtk Member

    @KuJoe - Should we provide feedback here, to a specific email address, or via your ticketing system?

  • twiigltwiigl Member

    @twiigl said: My order got cancelled even I've passed maxmind check, why?

    The only orders I've cancelled have been ones without their LET username in the order notes.

    I guess then it was a problem with whmcs, my browser or something different. Had submitted my details, my number was in wrong format and some fields got cleared, but not all, so maybe also the notes with the let-username.

  • jackbjackb Member, Provider
    edited April 21

    @KuJoe said:

    @WSS said: @KuJoe Why are you bothering to ping the address, first? Why not have them in a nice usable Redis table you can pull/remit to, and a background process which writes to DB?

    I blame SolusVM, ever since I used SolusVM I now lose sleep at night thinking IPs are being assigned to multiple clients. For OpenVZ it will throw an error but for KVM it lets both clients use the IP and they each just get packet loss and can sniff the other's traffic. SolusVM was notorious for assigning IPs but not marking it in the database so now I have that fear in the back of my mind that Wyvern will assign an IP and right before it can be updated in the database something breaks and then two clients will get the same IP eventually. SolusVM would assign an IP that was in use for months to a new client and then piss of our old client when their traffic was being sent to somebody else.

    Wouldn't it be quicker to check the ARP cache on the node than to ping? You could probably just pull & cache the ARP cache when you poll a node for its status and check that on the master.

    Afterburst - Awesome OpenVZ&KVM VPS in US+EU

    Thanked by 1WSS
  • To reduce amount of tickets, it might be also a good thing to setup DNS server on the host node as most of the installers try to use gateway IP as DNS server.

    Ultra Affordable VPSs - if you can find cheaper ones let me know! Zero downtime for over a year! | 6GB KVM VPS for $5,99/mo!
    Hybrid Servers - create customizable VPSs on dedicated node managed by wishosting.com | 1TB KVM Storage VPS for $14,99/qt!

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @jtk said: @KuJoe - Should we provide feedback here, to a specific email address, or via your ticketing system?

    You can reply here or open a ticket, whichever is easiest for you.

    @jackb said:

    Wouldn't it be quicker to check the ARP cache on the node than to ping? You could probably just pull & cache the ARP cache when you poll a node for its status and check that on the master.

    It might be, I'll look into it. :)

    @MrPsycho said: To reduce amount of tickets, it might be also a good thing to setup DNS server on the host node as most of the installers try to use gateway IP as DNS server.

    Thanks for the suggestion but that would require running the DNS servers on the routers and some of the routers we do not have access to.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • WSSWSS Member

    @KuJoe said:

    @MrPsycho said: To reduce amount of tickets, it might be also a good thing to setup DNS server on the host node as most of the installers try to use gateway IP as DNS server.

    Thanks for the suggestion but that would require running the DNS servers on the routers and some of the routers we do not have access to.

    My take on this is anyone too ignorant to read and type in '8.8.8.8', et al, shouldn't have the service, anyhow. Secondly, you could always just forward port 53 on the host itself to a nameserver, but that would likely annoy people who want a local resolver, thus my first point remains.

  • WSS said: My take on this is anyone too ignorant to read and type in '8.8.8.8', et al, shouldn't have the service, anyhow.

    Somehow you are right, but in the same time you forgets that it is a commercial product. The more users, the more profit.

    IMO forwarding to 8.8.8.8 is a good solution. I'm sure that there will be more users taking adventage of it, than users who will get "annoyed" because it's not local.

    Ultra Affordable VPSs - if you can find cheaper ones let me know! Zero downtime for over a year! | 6GB KVM VPS for $5,99/mo!
    Hybrid Servers - create customizable VPSs on dedicated node managed by wishosting.com | 1TB KVM Storage VPS for $14,99/qt!

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @MrPsycho said:

    WSS said: My take on this is anyone too ignorant to read and type in '8.8.8.8', et al, shouldn't have the service, anyhow.

    Somehow you are right, but in the same time you forgets that it is a commercial product. The more users, the more profit.

    Kinda. The more advanced users the more profit, the more novice users the less profit. If users have to open a support ticket for things like DNS servers they probably won't be renewing because the support fees we'd charge them for other simple tasks would make it more expensive than a fully managed service.

    IMO forwarding to 8.8.8.8 is a good solution. I'm sure that there will be more users taking adventage of it, than users who will get "annoyed" because it's not local.

    I will look into this. Once I roll out DHCP in the future it wouldn't be needed though.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • BochiBochi Member

    @KuJoe said:

    @Bochi said:

    But is this really a problem in this case?
    You are assigning a proper /64 anyway and let only choose from that one, so ideally there shouldn't be any conflicts. But better safe than sorry I guess.

    Right now I just have a single function for checking IPv4 and IPv6 for both OpenVZ and KVM, I can probably break that out into separate functions and disable the pinging requirement for IPv6 since you're right and all of the IPs will be on the same /64.

    Good to hear, that you are thinking about solutions! :)

    Another question regarding v6 at this point:
    Is there anything else to do other than assigning an address and configuring the interface of the VM accordingly?
    Somehow I can't even ping the gateway afterwards...

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Provider

    @Bochi said:

    Another question regarding v6 at this point:
    Is there anything else to do other than assigning an address and configuring the interface of the VM accordingly?
    Somehow I can't even ping the gateway afterwards...

    You shouldn't have to, I'll check the code though because I think I might know what the issue is.

    -Joe @ SecureDragon - LEB's Powered by Wyvern in FL, CO, CA, IL, NJ, GA, OR, TX, and AZ
    Need free hosting? Get AFreeCloud
  • -.- forgot to include my LET username. Should be obvious from my email though.

Sign In or Register to comment.