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Is port knocking still used? If not why?
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Is port knocking still used? If not why?

jeromezajeromeza Member
edited April 2017 in General

Is port knocking still used? If not why?

If you don't know what port knocking is:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Port_knocking

Comments

  • I use port knocking to open my SSH port.

  • WSSWSS Member

    Sure. Check any speakeasy!

  • someSguysomeSguy Member
    edited April 2017

    I don't use it because I find it not required. And conceptually, it's still security through obscurity.

    Non-standard SSH port, root login disabled, key-based authentication only.

  • @someSguy said:
    I don't use it because I find it not required. And conceptually, it's still security through obscurity.

    Non-standard SSH port, root login disabled, key-based authentication only.

    Sure, which I do by default. I'd also lock down to a set IP etc - but it doesn't hurt to add another layer, no?

  • exception0x876exception0x876 Member, Host Rep, LIR

    jeromeza said: Sure, which I do by default. I'd also lock down to a set IP etc - but it doesn't hurt to add another layer, no?

    Sure, unless you eventually lock out yourself too :)

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    someSguy said: conceptually, it's still security through obscurity

    someSguy said: Non-standard SSH port

    So you sneer at one form of security through obscurity and then recommend a different form...

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep

    @raindog308 said:

    someSguy said: conceptually, it's still security through obscurity

    someSguy said: Non-standard SSH port

    So you sneer at one form of security through obscurity and then recommend a different form...

    He might be changing SSH port to decrease the amount of noise in his log files / performance impact. That's a reasonable reason to change the SSH port I'd say.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    jackb said: He might be changing SSH port to decrease the amount of noise in his log files / performance impact. That's a reasonable reason to change the SSH port I'd say.

    I agree and that's what I do, too. But he isn't talking about log noise:

    someSguy said: I don't use it because I find it not required. And conceptually, it's still security through obscurity.

    Non-standard SSH port, root login disabled, key-based authentication only.

    That's in the context of improving security.

    Thanked by 1jackb
  • jh_aurologicjh_aurologic Member, Patron Provider

    What about allowing only specific IPs in your firewall, use bastion hosts, ssh key authentification and general hardening practices? ;-)

  • deadbeefdeadbeef Member
    edited April 2017

    @someSguy said:
    And conceptually, it's still security through obscurity.

    Nothing inherently bad with security through obscurity. Security isn't about masturbatory sound-bites.

    @someSguy said:
    Non-standard SSH port

    What? Security through obscurity in the exact next sentence? :D

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