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When to choose copper / fiber

ScammerProutScammerProut Member
edited February 2017 in Help

Both support 1g and 10g uplinks when do you choose fiber over copper besides length that is.

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  • Copper for saucepans, fiber for pants.

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  • Copper for police, fiber for hiding from police.

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  • @KeKe said:
    Both support 1g and 10g uplinks when do you choose fiber over copper besides length that is.

    I think this question may lack some vital context.

  • @GZS said:

    @KeKe said:
    Both support 1g and 10g uplinks when do you choose fiber over copper besides length that is.

    I think this question may lack some vital context.

    No, it's perfect as it is. We need some LowEndHousekeeping talk, damn it!

  • AshleyUkAshleyUk Member
    edited February 2017

    Fibre : No crosstalk, lower latency when running @ 10Gb, thinner physical size than bulky CAT7 cable, lower power requirements

    Copper : CAT7 may be cheaper than fibre, can easily be shortened / re-terminated

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  • @Yura said:

    @GZS said:

    @KeKe said:
    Both support 1g and 10g uplinks when do you choose fiber over copper besides length that is.

    I think this question may lack some vital context.

    No, it's perfect as it is. We need some LowEndHousekeeping talk, damn it!

    If you leave milk out too long, it turns into yogurt. If you leave that out too long, it turns to cheese. If you leave that out too long, it'll help cure that rash on your peespots. If you leave it out longer than that, it becomes sentient and will destroy the planet.

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  • Personally, I went with Stainless steel because it looks so much better than the brushed nickel.

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  • @WSS said:
    Personally, I went with Stainless steel because it looks so much better than the brushed nickel.

    We need more nickel stuff in our lifes.

  • @WSS said:

    @Yura said:

    @GZS said:

    @KeKe said:
    Both support 1g and 10g uplinks when do you choose fiber over copper besides length that is.

    I think this question may lack some vital context.

    No, it's perfect as it is. We need some LowEndHousekeeping talk, damn it!

    If you leave milk out too long, it turns into yogurt. If you leave that out too long, it turns to cheese. If you leave that out too long, it'll help cure that rash on your peespots. If you leave it out longer than that, it becomes sentient and will destroy the planet.

    Thanks, patootie. Here are some of mine for stains:

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    • For bloodstains on a piano, polish the keys with talcum powder or powdered milk.
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  • It's mostly an environmental and distance choice, from a technical perspective.

  • @Microlinux said:
    It's mostly an environmental and distance choice, from a technical perspective.

    500 ft? Fiber or copper? 3x10Gb uplinks

  • @serverian said:

    @WSS said:
    Personally, I went with Stainless steel because it looks so much better than the brushed nickel.

    We need more nickel stuff in our lifes.

    The only problem with Nickel is that only LET providers will ever see one, because everyone else is too busy pinching pennies.

  • @WSS said:
    Personally, I went with Stainless steel because it looks so much better than the brushed nickel.

    Don't chase after looks, SS heats up fast but doesn't have high thermal capacity. Ever noticed that food gets burned on the underside but not well cooked otherwise? That is often the case with SS. Nothing bests copper for pans but it's rather expensive nowadays. Cast iron is second best but heavy as fuck and needs regular maintainance. It's easy, though, just wash it after usage, rub in mineral oil and heat up for 5-10 mins. It will be serve you for many years and much better than SS.

  • @Yura said:

    @WSS said:
    Personally, I went with Stainless steel because it looks so much better than the brushed nickel.

    Don't chase after looks, SS heats up fast but doesn't have high thermal capacity. Ever noticed that food gets burned on the underside but not well cooked otherwise? That is often the case with SS. Nothing bests copper for pans but it's rather expensive nowadays. Cast iron is second best but heavy as fuck and needs regular maintainance. It's easy, though, just wash it after usage, rub in mineral oil and heat up for 5-10 mins. It will be serve you for many years and much better than SS.

    Copper needs a ton of maintenance, too.

  • @serverian said:

    @Yura said:

    @WSS said:
    Personally, I went with Stainless steel because it looks so much better than the brushed nickel.

    Don't chase after looks, SS heats up fast but doesn't have high thermal capacity. Ever noticed that food gets burned on the underside but not well cooked otherwise? That is often the case with SS. Nothing bests copper for pans but it's rather expensive nowadays. Cast iron is second best but heavy as fuck and needs regular maintainance. It's easy, though, just wash it after usage, rub in mineral oil and heat up for 5-10 mins. It will be serve you for many years and much better than SS.

    Copper needs a ton of maintenance, too.

    Fair point. When you have a classy lady you don't pinch pennies. Maybe a penis but not pennies.

  • I don't use copper POTS anymore- hell, I don't even have a land line.

  • @KeKe said:
    500 ft? Fiber or copper? 3x10Gb uplinks

    Fiber, copper wouldn't work at that distance.

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  • @WSS said:
    I don't use copper POTS anymore- hell, I don't even have a land line.

    Oh, you uppity BRI people!

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  • @Microlinux said:

    @WSS said:
    I don't use copper POTS anymore- hell, I don't even have a land line.

    Oh, you uppity BRI people!

    One might say I've Ascended.

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  • WSS said: Ascended

    I still have nightmares about the CLI on that gear . . .

  • @Microlinux said:

    WSS said: Ascended

    I still have nightmares about the CLI on that gear . . .

    The vt100 "GUI" wasn't a hell of a lot better.

    Goddamn- we're old.

  • @WSS said:

    @Microlinux said:

    WSS said: Ascended

    I still have nightmares about the CLI on that gear . . .

    The vt100 "GUI" wasn't a hell of a lot better.

    Goddamn- we're old.

    The worst part is we've still got one in production, thank the gods I haven't had to really touch it, save for swapping cards, for the better part of decade!

  • @Microlinux said:
    The worst part is we've still got one in production, thank the gods I haven't had to really touch it, save for swapping cards, for the better part of decade!

    Holy SHIT. That sucker's a warrior. I'd ask how you get parts, but Portmasters.com still exists, so..

  • WSS said: Holy SHIT. That sucker's a warrior. I'd ask how you get parts, but Portmasters.com still exists, so..

    Things been running since probably 2000 . . . we still have a pretty large stock of parts left over from the "glory days".

  • Something tells me that it knows we have spoken of it, and you're going to go red tomorrow.

  • Copper for more than 1G is practically non existent in the D/carrier market - the range is limited, too limited for medium-large DCs.

    Gbit depends - to your rack from ISP likely copper by ease of connection and ending up on a L2 device/trunk, from a carrier/meet-me likely fiber as you end up on a L3 device/router and it offers the 10G upgrade path easier.

  • @AshleyUk said:
    Fibre : No crosstalk, lower latency when running @ 10Gb, thinner physical size than bulky CAT7 cable, lower power requirements

    Copper : CAT7 may be cheaper than fibre, can easily be shortened / re-terminated

    not "may be cheaper," it IS cheaper than fibre :P

  • @WSS said:
    I don't use copper POTS anymore- hell, I don't even have a land line.

    Copper is poisonous just so you know, should not get in contact with food or water. :D

    For the OP, go with fiber, may be initially little bit more expensive but it's a investment in the future.

  • @Vita said:

    @WSS said:
    I don't use copper POTS anymore- hell, I don't even have a land line.

    Copper is poisonous just so you know, should not get in contact with food or water. :D

    For the OP, go with fiber, may be initially little bit more expensive but it's a investment in the future.

    Copper poisoning is NOT nice

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  • @Vita said:

    @WSS said:
    I don't use copper POTS anymore- hell, I don't even have a land line.

    Copper is poisonous just so you know, should not get in contact with food or water. :D

    FAKE NEWS!

    Copper is perfectly suited for cookware due to unparalleled heat distribution and highest thermal conductivity in non-noble metals. That's why best air coolers are made from copper. Copper can be toxic when in contact with acidic foods only. For such cases lining copper with tin, SS, nickel or silver is strictly necessary. Kickass stuff.

    I'm sick and tired of all these fakenews networks like CNN, MSNBC and FOX spreading copperphobic propaganda for their own aluminum (sic!) agenda. I have shocking news for victims of their evil programming: unlined copper can be completely safe and even preferable for cooking meringue, jellies and jams! Sweet delicious fruit sugar providers a nice buffer for fruit acids and nothing bad will happen to you.

    Eat, Chew, Love <3

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