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DNSEEK - Alternative DNS Root -> Next Generation DNS Service

anxanx Member
edited January 2017 in General

Hello,

After Dot project, which has been on the agenda for some time but has not been developed because of time and technical insufficiency, is back as a new generation DNS service with its new brand DNSEEK.

We can explain DNSEEK as an OpenNIC innovation with its user-friendly interface and it's aiming to create an alternative root server network.

What Is Dnseek?

Dnseek is a non-profit and free platform that aims to create an innovative perspective on the domain name system on the internet. Except for domain extensions created and managed by ICANN, you can take advantage of alternative generic domain extensions created by Dnseek, which are more democratic in management. Simple and easy to use, with fast access we want to be a name that comes to mind when you call "dns".

How Does Dnseek Work?

In addition to achieving a fast and uncensored domain name system, you need a little change in DNS settings on your desktop, laptop, tablet or smartphone in order to take advantage of alternative generic domain extensions. You can make this change on your own either manually or through our system-customized application which will be released in the future. With Dnseek's exclusive ip address 5.2.64.64, you will be able to enjoy extra services without any changes in your current internet infrastructure and domain name resolution, as well as free of charge.

What Can You Do With Dnseek?

You can register new domain names with upcoming words prefixed to the numeric and short domain extensions found in the system, system also supports emojis which makes the domain name registration more enjoyable.

You can park your domain names, forward them to any destination address or transfer them to a different user, shortly, we offer you many features in classic domain name registries as an alternative to ICANN with "registry from scratch".

In the system there will be integrated different features within our road map in the coming periods, via DNS2SMS template you can send visitor SMS messages to the GSM numbers via your browser. (For example, sms.1909526464)

Search Engines and Dnseek

In today's popular search engines, it is not possible Google and Yandex directories to include addresses that you have registered on Dnseek. As they only support top level domain names managed by ICANN, there's not yet upcoming development for alternative root servers.

Take a look at our address now to better understand and experience DNSEEK, the next generation DNS service;

https://www.dnseek.com

For your comments and suggestions, you can use the contact page on our site or post a message under this thread, please don't forget that we're in beta phrase, so you can report us bugs ever you hunted.

Thank you.

Comments

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    I'm intrigued.

    Thanked by 3anx GCat Janevski
  • user123user123 Member
    edited January 2017

    Domains with emojis? I call dibs on the domain :hankey:VPS

    Thanked by 2anx GCat
  • Already exists. Plus, why not just buy a domain? It's $10.

    Thanked by 2anx GCat
  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited January 2017

    anx said: You can park your domain names, forward them to any destination address or transfer them to a different user, shortly, we offer you many features in classic domain name registries as an alternative to ICANN with "registry from strach".

    What is a "strach"? Starch?

    Also couldn't you have picked a less stupid name. Everyone is going to read it as "DNS Eek".

  • anxanx Member

    @user123 said:
    Domains with emojis? I call dibs on the domain :hankey:VPS

    Yes, you can copy and paste emotijis from here http://getemoji.com/ as an example and register.

  • How much will it cost to register a domain? How will WHOIS work? Will WHOIS protection be free? What about policies to prevent domain hijacking? Since your post only says that accessing your domains is free, I'm assuming there will be a charge associated with registering domains.

    Thanked by 1anx
  • anxanx Member

    @rm_ said:

    anx said: You can park your domain names, forward them to any destination address or transfer them to a different user, shortly, we offer you many features in classic domain name registries as an alternative to ICANN with "registry from strach".

    What is a "strach"? Starch?

    Also couldn't you have picked a less stupid name. Everyone is going to read it as "DNS Eek".

    Thanks for the notification of the typo, it would be "scratch".

    Name is chosen for both "dn seek" (domain name seek) and "dnseek" like pronounciations of scientific, alcoholic etc.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited January 2017

    DNS EEK lol

    Why are you selling the domain on afternic at the same time? Is this some pump and dump project?
    http://www.afternic.com/forsale/dnseek.com

    Also, why only one IP? It's DNS, you should have two as per default expectations.

    edit: the website appears to run from a liteserver.nl yearly VPS lol

    edit2: I actually called afternic just now about the domain and the sales rep told me that the seller hasen't set a price and wants to be contacted directly instead for a purchase.

  • anxanx Member

    @user123 said:
    How much will it cost to register a domain? How will WHOIS work? Will WHOIS protection be free? What about policies to prevent domain hijacking? Since your post only says that accessing your domains is free, I'm assuming there will be a charge associated with registering domains.

    All are free of charge, after creating an account at the website, you can register, park/forward, switch whois on/off, renew, transfer and delete your domains.

    At the main page of the site, when you search for a name, if it's registered, then "Whois" button is shown and you can click that for a whois lookup.

    2FA for the transfers of the domain is on the road map, currently transfer and delete requests are approved via e-mail by the registrant.

    Also, for possible phishing and malware activities, abuse reports will be considered and those domain names that used in such activities will be disabled and/or deleted.

    Actually, Dnseek currently doesn't have an actual policy for using, aim is to get feedback for the functionality first, such an MVP presentation.

  • anxanx Member
    edited January 2017

    @stefeman said:
    DNS EEK lol

    Why are you selling the domain on afternic at the same time? Is this some pump and dump project? I actually called them just now and the told me that the seller hasen't set a price and wants to be contacted directly instead for a purchase.
    http://www.afternic.com/forsale/dnseek.com

    Also, why only one IP? It's DNS, you should have two as per default expectations.

    edit: the website appears to run from a yearly VPS lol

    That listing is invalid, it's previous owners one, also noktadomains.com would have the same listing before, they were then removed without a contact.

    If Afternic doesn't verify the listing of the domain names in their database time to time, no problem, dnseek.com is an established site and doesn't have a landing page for Afternic, you could have seen the same domain at Sedo too.

    But, if this worries you, contacting them to remove the listing is easy to do.

    Having two ip address as per default expectations as you mentioned, it's not a must and that's enough for a start.

    And yes, it's running from a VPS but also not yearly, paid per month, recently not much traffic for moving it to a cloud and/or dedicated server, so as a minimum viable product, it's enough actually and unnecessary to pay for more.

    And special thanks to @liteserver for providing their support.

  • Sounds worthless.

    Thanked by 2anx Janevski
  • I would never use dns servers of unverified parties.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @doghouch said:
    Already exists. Plus, why not just buy a domain? It's $10.

    I think it's a fun exercise to remind the people in control of basic internet infrastructure points that their services are not irreplaceable. Even if difficult, if you piss people off enough anything could happen. Not that ICANN really bothers many people too much, but you know... tomorrow is always a different day :)

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  • Try again when you have something where I can have videos in a domain name.

    Thanked by 1anx
  • jtkjtk Member

    @user123 said:
    How much will it cost to register a domain? How will WHOIS work? Will WHOIS protection be free? What about policies to prevent domain hijacking? Since your post only says that accessing your domains is free, I'm assuming there will be a charge associated with registering domains.

    As far as alternate roots go, they're mostly harmless in the grand scheme, but they can lend themselves to some confusion. The varied attempts at alternate roots
    were largely met with failure and ridicule. For the most part, they and the general idea has been relegated to the dust bin of Internet ideas. I don't know of any serious operator who takes them seriously these days.

    Some of the alt root stuff that was attempted by many have been dismissed as being run by "kooks". Another problem is that they have often been proposed by someone just trying to make quick money by preying on the naive.

    As imperfect as ICANN may be and as much as we're stuck with it, the alternative roots, for better or worse, offer no practical value for the greater Internet. I don't care if people want to setup and run them, but all they're likely to ever be now is a toy, as opposed to an important, necessary, open, democratic, alternative, whatever subsystem their advocates claim or want them to be.

    There are numerous infrastructure issues you allude to. Don't forget you also have to find a way to get all other people and systems to use your system so these new names will even resolve for any. Good luck with that.

    In other words, be wary.

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  • RadiRadi Host Rep, Veteran

    Do you allow people to run their own DNS servers for DNSEEK extensions?

    Thanked by 1anx
  • Is this yet another alternic or is there something that makes it different?

    Thanked by 1anx
  • Not quite sure what the advantage is, willie seems to mention the "it's been done before" thing.

    It seems you're pushing free/cheap services rather than an alternate DNS root. why not buy spiffy.ntld and just supply free subdomains like CentralNIC did.

    Thanked by 1anx
  • anxanx Member

    @Radi said:
    Do you allow people to run their own DNS servers for DNSEEK extensions?

    Unfortuantely, but an API (probably SOAP firstly) will be released to the public for people to implement their own gTLD's.

    @willie said:
    Is this yet another alternic or is there something that makes it different?

    AlterNIC project is currently defunct, but yes, it's the same kind aka Alternative DNS Root. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root)

    @ricardo said:
    Not quite sure what the advantage is, willie seems to mention the "it's been done before" thing.

    It seems you're pushing free/cheap services rather than an alternate DNS root. why not buy spiffy.ntld and just supply free subdomains like CentralNIC did.

    Idea is the same but the aim to is to be more user friendly than a geek one and provide additional features via using the power of DNS topology.

    Even if existing ICANN based top level domain names are resolved, it's decided to populate an alternate dns root rather than applying for gTLD process in ICANN for savings, also headache procedure-free, as the main ideas are to provide alternative services for less operational costs and become non-profit as possible as it can be, but it's up for the community to reach out more people here for sure.

  • It could get more interesting if major OS distros start including alternate roots.

    Thanked by 1anx
  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited January 2017

    willie said: It could get more interesting if major OS distros start including alternate roots.

    They will not. If anything, FOSS distros (and fringe ones at that) may include some new decentralized solution, if one is to appear (such as NameCoin, but better). But nobody will get behind random new TLDs which are still centralized and in the hands of some unknown bunch of people.

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  • rm_ said: But nobody will get behind random new TLDs which are still centralized and in the hands of some unknown bunch of people.

    Trust no one.

  • JanevskiJanevski Member
    edited January 2017

    It doesn't handle NXDOMAIN properly.
    They inject poison A record.

    $ dig @5.2.64.64 this-is-snakeoil-32139102301203989102320138910.com A
    
    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    this-is-snakeoil-32139102301203989102320138910.com. 3600 IN A 5.2.64.8
    

    *For some reason i cannot format this whole message properly using pre tags.
    image

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  • anxanx Member
    edited January 2017

    @Janevski said:
    It doesn't handle NXDOMAIN properly.
    They inject poison A record.

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    this-is-snakeoil-32139102301203989102320138910.com. 3600 IN A 5.2.64.8

    For some reason i cannot format this message using pre tags.

    $ dig @5.2.64.64 this-is-snakeoil-32139102301203989102320138910.com A

    ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.8-Ubuntu <<>> @5.2.64.64 this-is-snakeoil-32139102301203989102320138910.com A
    ; (1 server found)
    ;; global options: +cmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46814
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

    ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
    ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;this-is-snakeoil-32139102301203989102320138910.com. IN A

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    this-is-snakeoil-32139102301203989102320138910.com. 3600 IN A 5.2.64.8

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    com. 900 IN SOA a.gtld-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1484412748 1800 900 604800 86400

    ;; Query time: 65 msec
    ;; SERVER: 5.2.64.64#53(5.2.64.64)
    ;; WHEN: Sat Jan 14 17:52:52 CET 2017
    ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 168
    $

    Thanks for finding out one of the features.

    Yes, NXDOMAIN forwarding is used for domain names that aren't registered and/or don't have any name server, so unregistered ICANN based names are being redirected to the GoDaddy registrar, and alternative ones that Dnseek has to the landing page which has a link for registration.

    Also, as i mentioned in the above, there's DNS2SMS template for which you can send sms messages to the mobile numbers via using "sms." prefix, example: sms.1909526464

  • rm_ said: . But nobody will get behind random new TLDs which are still centralized and in the hands of some unknown bunch of people.

    They got behind letsencrypt, so something along those lines. Namecoin is another idea.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited January 2017

    willie said: They got behind letsencrypt, so something along those lines

    Let's Encrypt's ISRG are not an "unknown bunch of people", you can see who's running their board of directors and what credentials they have. At DNS Eek there's no word on who's running this or why you should trust them.

    anx said: NXDOMAIN forwarding is used for domain names that aren't registered and/or don't have any name server, so unregistered ICANN based names are being redirected to the GoDaddy registrar

    Yup there goes the main purpose of the "service", to make a buck from redirecting people to a referral scheme at GoDaddy.

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  • anxanx Member

    @rm_ said:

    willie said: They got behind letsencrypt, so something along those lines

    Let's Encrypt's ISRG are not an "unknown bunch of people", you can see who's running their board of directors and what credentials they have. At DNS Eek there's no word on who's running this or why you should trust them.

    anx said: NXDOMAIN forwarding is used for domain names that aren't registered and/or don't have any name server, so unregistered ICANN based names are being redirected to the GoDaddy registrar

    Yup there goes the main purpose of the "service", to make a buck from redirecting people to a referral scheme page at GoDaddy.

    It's one of the parts for the NXDOMAIN redirection, also there's not any affiliate working yet if you can scan the URL deeply, but it may.

  • @rm_ said:
    NameCoin, but better).

    that's a very low bar

  • williewillie Member
    edited January 2017

    rm_ said: Let's Encrypt's ISRG are not an "unknown bunch of people"

    Yes, that's what I mean. An organization like LetsEncrypt can run a root and then OS's could use it.

    Yup there goes the main purpose of the "service", to make a buck from redirecting people to a referral scheme at GoDaddy.

    Aha, I had missed that part. Ok, that explains.

  • UnixfyUnixfy Member
    edited January 2017

    Grabbed myself :poop:vps.www

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