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Gandi.NET - does not accept fake account details

Gandi.NET - does not accept fake account details

xrzxrz Member
edited January 11 in Domains

So the long story short:

I had a gandi.net handle (account), with a fake details, i am not such an idiot to provide real details, scan of my own identity (AND WHY SHOULD I? ITS MY PERSONAL INFO! EVEN MY COUNTRY FORBID SCANNING AND SENDING PERSONAL INFO LOL)

And had on this handle about 100 domains, so they decided and find one JUST ONE domain with fake info (never got any complain from gandi.net about it before JUST THIS ONE) AND THEY DELETED WHOLE HANDLE! and requiring the documents to be sent.

So i lost whole account due to ONE fcked domain.

Never again Gandi.NET BULLSHIT!!!

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  • so its your own fault for providing false information then.

  • xrzxrz Member
    edited January 11

    i had fake info on every domain register i used before :) NO PROBLEM :) Oh and it was WHOISGUARD or GANDI-GUARD

  • rm_rm_ Member

    I had a gandi.net handle (account), with a fake details

    THEY DELETED WHOLE HANDLE

    Seems like Gandi just working as intended.

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Provider

    Very well. You're in breach of contract, be happy they are still talking with you.

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  • WSSWSS Member

    "I'm a fraud but pissed that I got called out on it."

    The only completely consistent people are the dead.

  • whoisguard is acceptable but you have to provide the registering host with real info or your at fault.

  • MikeAMikeA Member, Provider

    @WSS said: "I'm a fraud but pissed that I got called out on it."

    I don't know man, he called himself out on it.

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  • WSSWSS Member

    @MikeA said:

    @WSS said: "I'm a fraud but pissed that I got called out on it."

    I don't know man, he called himself out on it.

    ..and he's still pissed, even though it's his own fault.

    The only completely consistent people are the dead.

  • WSSWSS Member

    So... Parcheesi?

    The only completely consistent people are the dead.

  • Good for you buddy ! Next time, either pay higher fees for shady notgivingafuck registrars or use your real info.

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  • That story about place all eggs in one bucket. In other side provider must respect own valued clients whenever

  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Provider

    @jenkki said: That story about place all eggs in one bucket. In other side provider must respect own valued clients whenever

    Providers respect, but have legal obligations.

    The OP admitted to misrepresenting his personal details, therefore committing a fraud while signing the contract with the provider. I don't see anything wrong in the Gandi's reaction.

    OP - if you were looking for a back padding and solidarity you should have posted that on the hack forums.

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  • xrzxrz Member
    edited January 11

    All about this is about they "COOL" logo - "no bullshit TM" - THEY ARE FULL OF BULLSHITS ;)

    //once again this never happens me on godaddy, name.com,namecheap ... only on gandi

  • Clouvider said: Providers respect, but have legal obligations.

    May be that reason why I prefer and trust more to one person hosts

  • @xrz said: All about this is about they "COOL" logo - "no bullshit TM" - THEY ARE FULL OF BULLSHITS ;)

    //once again this never happens me on godaddy, name.com,namecheap ... only on gandi

    Assuming you're using fake details on all these services as well, it's simply because they haven't found out yet.

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  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Provider

    @jenkki said:

    Clouvider said: Providers respect, but have legal obligations.

    May be that reason why I prefer and trust more to one person hosts

    They still have the same legal obligations.

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  • busbrbusbr Member

    Bad comparison, but here we go

    I had a gandi.net handle (account), with a fake details, i am not such an idiot to provide real details, scan of my own identity (AND WHY SHOULD I? ITS MY PERSONAL INFO! EVEN MY COUNTRY FORBID SCANNING AND SENDING PERSONAL INFO LOL)

    I went to target for shopping (buying), with counterfeit cash, i am not such an idiot to pay real cash, papers of my own hard work (AND WHY SHOULD I? ITS MY OWN HARD EARNED MONEY! EVEN MY COUNTRY SAYS THAT IT IS MY PRIVATE PROPERTY LOL)

    @xrz said: All about this is about they "COOL" logo - "no bullshit TM" - THEY ARE FULL OF BULLSHITS ;)

    //once again this never happens me on godaddy, name.com,namecheap ... only on gandi

    All about this "COOL" tagline - "expect more, save less TM" -- THEY ARE FULL OF BULLSHITS;)

    //once again ive never been caught in walmart, 7/11,luckys ... only in target> @xrz said:

  • @busbr said: Bad comparison, but here we go

    I had a gandi.net handle (account), with a fake details, i am not such an idiot to provide real details, scan of my own identity (AND WHY SHOULD I? ITS MY PERSONAL INFO! EVEN MY COUNTRY FORBID SCANNING AND SENDING PERSONAL INFO LOL)

    I went to target for shopping (buying), with counterfeit cash, i am not such an idiot to pay real cash, papers of my own hard work (AND WHY SHOULD I? ITS MY OWN HARD EARNED MONEY! EVEN MY COUNTRY SAYS THAT IT IS MY PRIVATE PROPERTY LOL)

    @xrz said: All about this is about they "COOL" logo - "no bullshit TM" - THEY ARE FULL OF BULLSHITS ;)

    //once again this never happens me on godaddy, name.com,namecheap ... only on gandi

    All about this "COOL" tagline - "expect more, save less TM" -- THEY ARE FULL OF BULLSHITS;)

    //once again ive never been caught in walmart, 7/11,luckys ... only in target> @xrz said:

    As you said, that was a terrible comparison.

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  • The registrar has a legal obligation to manage domains with real data, I do not see why they should take that risk for you.

    You'd better practice legal activity on the internet, activities for which you do not have to hide your name. If you really want to do that don't wait for someone else to take charge.

  • williewillie Member
    edited January 11

    Clouvider said:

    The OP admitted to misrepresenting his personal details, therefore committing a fraud while signing the contract with the provider. I don't see anything wrong in the Gandi's reaction.

    Well I don't think he went to them and said he used fake details. They checked it out themselves, booted him for it, and he posted about it here afterwards. Yes they're in their rights to do that, the butthurt in the post is not justified, it's the type of shop they want to run and it's up to them. But at the same time it's fine to share this kind of info, since it means they have lots of time on their hands to do that stuff. Other places might be too busy to check your data unless someone actually complains so they're obliged to check it.

    It's the same situation as seeding linux isos. Some server hosts take it on themselves to check the exact distros you're seeding, others leave you alone unless there's a complaint. It's useful to know how a given host deals with that.

  • pbgbenpbgben Member, Provider

    @ScienceOnline said: The registrar has a legal obligation to manage domains with real data, I do not see why they should take that risk for you.

    You'd better practice legal activity on the internet, activities for which you do not have to hide your name. If you really want to do that don't wait for someone else to take charge.

    Reminds me of the milky bar kid...

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  • Clouvider said: They still have the same legal obligations.

    You're wrong. I operate one person business and never sort out black or white, everyone welcome, if I got fraud (only few) well, ready to fight. You just trying to play out with instant karma instead

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Provider
    edited January 11

    @xrz have you noticed that not a single person agrees with your or is showing any sympathy on a forum that is hungry to rip hosts to shreds given even the smallest of justifications?

    Maybe sit back, close your eyes, clear your mind, and consider this, maybe you are the one in the wrong here, perhaps you are the problem.

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  • WebProjectWebProject Member, Provider

    Very good provider - Gandi.NET, correct action is done, less scam on Internet, what do expect? Try to open the bank account with fake documents or details? Who cares about your country rules if you're are using fake identity.

  • @AnthonySmith said: @xrz have you noticed that not a single person agrees with your or is showing any sympathy on a forum that is hungry to rip hosts to shreds given even the smallest of justifications?

    Eloquently put :D

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  • I propose a title change: "Gandi.NET deleted my account after I commited fraud."

  • bacloudbacloud Member, Provider

    Respect to Gandi.net , They should say thank you for advertising. They do not follow illegal activity, that means they are reliable provider.

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  • Thanks to this thread, i am now considering transferring some of my domains to Gandi. They seem like a pure domain registrar that actually care's about the integrity of the services they provide.

    In this world, nothing is constant. People change, situations change, even the environment around us change. Within all this, there is ONE thing that does not change, that is the 'truth'. Truth will remain unchanged. Anyone that grows in truth is successful.

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    Gandi 2017! Make Domain Registrars Great Again! #MDRGA

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  • KnownHostChrisMKnownHostChrisM Member, Provider

    Be happy they stopped what ever fraud you were involved in before you got in trouble. Nothing legitimate can come from using false details when registering a domain.

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  • xrzxrz Member
    edited January 11

    Involved in nothing, just DO NOT WANT TO HAVE any of MY OWN PERSONAL DETAILS on SOME BULLSHIT provider (better on any provider) ;)

    Why should one pay in BITCOINS and then DISCLOSE PERSONAL details ??

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ou3ad/gandinet_to_accept_bitcoin_payments/

    https://www.gandi.net/payment/ - "By Bitcoin

    We accept payment via Bitcoin. Note: You must have a Bitcoin wallet in order to pay by this means. Our Bitcoin wallet address is provided to you at checkout."

  • xrz said: Involved in nothing, just DO NOT WANT TO HAVE any of MY OWN PERSONAL DETAILS on SOME BULLSHIT provider (better on any provider) ;)

    Why are you blaming Gandi then? As a REGISTRAR they merely follow the rules laid of by the REGISTRY for TLD registrations.

    Out of curiousity, what TLD was the domain you had fake info for? The REGISTRAR needs to make efforts to enforce the REGISTRY rules or risk getting dumped as a REGISTRAR. They'd have many more pissed off customers if people had to transfer all their .com's and .net's away from GANDI, for example.

    ICANN rules for gTLDs become a lot more strict on the 1st December 2016. If you're using BS details or a dud email address, the domain would more than likely get suspended anyway, and you would not be able to update your fake details to something else, though this is something dependent on how the REGISTRARS interpret the rules.

  • layfonlayfon Member
    edited January 11

    xrz said: Involved in nothing, just DO NOT WANT TO HAVE any of MY OWN PERSONAL DETAILS on SOME BULLSHIT provider (better on any provider) ;)

    Why should one pay in BITCOINS and then DISCLOSE PERSONAL details ??

    Bitcoin is often connected to anonymity, but accepting payment in bitcoin does not imply that provider accepts anonymity. It can also serve as providing a payment method other than CC.

  • xrzxrz Member
    edited January 11

    @ricardo *.nz domain, i had a lot but only *.nz complain which required about sending documents (there were no DMCA or so, just they wanted it to compare IF I AM WHO I AM), all other were fine, somehow they noticed :D @layfon yes i know ;)

  • time4vpstime4vps Member, Provider

    xrz said: Why should one pay in BITCOINS and then DISCLOSE PERSONAL details ??

    Bitcoins != No Personal Details. Understand it clearly and there will be no "bullshit" with your services.

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Provider

    lesson learned I don't think!

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  • Really nice muppet show with folks calling himself hosting experts. No worries about that, everyone being in right time in right place.

  • xrzxrz Member
    edited January 11

    @time4vps if Bitcoins != No Personal Details, then you know everyone names who paying with bitcoin right ;) you got all teh names and other personal details in bitcoin transactions, good, good, i didnt know ^^

  • This thread is too funny. Thanks for the laugh.

  • time4vpstime4vps Member, Provider

    xrz said: then you know everyone names who paying with bitcoin right ;)

    If we have any doubts about customer and his personal details - we simply ask to verify it. It seems same policies are applied on Gandi.net. Perfectly legitimate and standard.

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  • xrzxrz Member

    @time4vps yep but its my right to keep it private :) sorry i do NOT trust to ANYONE who requesting personal details over the NET.

  • jenkkijenkki Member
    edited January 11

    xrz said: xrz

    Just wondering when folks buy bitcoins under own bank accounts. Want to get bitcoin? Add your bank account details and done :P

  • xrzxrz Member

    @jenkki but i am not the one ;)

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Provider

    xrz said: i do NOT trust to ANYONE who requesting personal details over the NET.

    An no one if forcing you to, equally companies chose not to trust those who make up fake details, no one forced you to buy service from them, you chose to use fake details and they used their rights to remove you.

    Simple.

    if a bar only let people in with valid ID and you knew that in advance and you went anyway with fake ID and they did not let you in, all they have done is exactly what you knew they would do, trying to circumvent it and getting caught later is no ones fault but your own.

    Use hosts who don't care and have an open door policy to anyone and allow fake details if that is what you want, then everyone is one the same page.

    I fully respect your desire for anonymity, but don't force your ideals on those that make it clear before you step through the door that they don't allow it, they have just as much right to demand to know who they are dealing with when conducting business transactions.

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  • nulldevnulldev Member
    edited January 11

    @xrz said: @time4vps yep but its my right to keep it private :) sorry i do NOT trust to ANYONE who requesting personal details over the NET.

    Yes, it is your right to keep it private, and their right to ban you if you do! What do you think they can do with your address? Send an assassin to your house? Your address is not personal information really...

    Also:

    Bitcoin can be used to pay anonymously or:

    blows your mind USED AS A NORMAL CURRENCY! Bitcoin was never designed for anonymity! Don't treat it like a special type of money, treat it like cash. Protect your Bitcoin and spend ethically.

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  • xrzxrz Member
    edited January 11

    Address only?

    The following official documents will be accepted:

    * Valid Government-issued Drivers License or;
    * Valid Government-issued passport with recognizable photo
    

    The information provided shall be verified directly with the appropriate state or federal agency for accuracy before any reactivation may occur.

    Additionally, we require a current (less than 3 months) certificate of residence issued by your local Clerk’s Office or equivalent state office such as the police, that clearly states the name and address of the registrant of the aforementioned domain name(s).

    Soooory but really N.O.P.E. :)

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  • MrPsychoMrPsycho Member
    edited January 11

    Let me explain what does "No bullshit" mean the easiest ways, since nothing gets to you.

    fake detials = bullshit

    no bullshit = no fake datails.

    Bitcoin doesn't need your detials for payment. That's true, but it doesn't mean that the company also doesn't. AND YOU KNOW THAT, because you had to put them at registration, before payment.

    Edit: I'm kinda curious what would you do in case you would have to transfer your domain to another registrar... How would you get the auth code?

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    Are you actually serious?

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