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Low end VPS provider are overselling VPS ?

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Low end VPS provider are overselling VPS or they are providing quality services?

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    • niknik Member, Host Rep

      It totally depends. You can't generalize such things

    • Course they are.

    • Whats with all these dumb polls here lately?

    • "my 3 usd/year vps totally has those 3 cpu cores dedicated to itself".

      Yeah, sure.

    • OSTKCabalOSTKCabal Member, Patron Provider

      It really depends on the provider, who's running it, and what their thoughts on overselling are. Personally, I'm against overselling in terms of RAM, CPU power, or HDD/SSD space. Some will oversell one of those resources; some will oversell all, some will oversell none.

    • You can't put all LET providers in one pool I'm afraid.

      Some achieve 'margin' by overselling to beat the band, others are larger and have enough overall margin that the contribution from LET works while remaining profitable..
      Some are LET focused, some are not, etc.

      Thanked by 3deadbeef Junkless flopv
    • VortexMagnusVortexMagnus Member
      edited December 2016

      The key for providing LEB-style VPS is to have enough profitable revenue in addition to the low end deals so that the two balane out and ultimately means a profitable host node and a profitable business.

      You can have LowEnd and still provide a quality service. I like to think we do, anyway.

      Some providers don't get that though...

      Thanked by 2Saragoldfarb Bobby_T
    • This poll doesn't really make sense.
      For example, if a provider overcommit CPU cores, but whenever someone would like to use CPU resource, he always can, then it's not really a big deal. Alternatively, the provider can specify how much CPU core is dedicated to you, while the other is "burst."
      Given good,enforced policy(something like no 100% CPU 24/7), the above example can still be quality service, while it's overselling in some sense.

      The network itself is oversell in some sense,too. (When you get 1Gbps vps, do you get dedicated 1Gbps bandwidth to everywhere on the earth?)
      You get what you pay for. That's it.

    • Cyph3rCyph3r Member
      edited December 2016

      This is kind of trivial to say without any facts behind each provider

    • bacloudbacloud Member, Patron Provider

      How many providers do not oversell dedicated servers to provide VPS? ~0.01%

      For example We have E3 dedicated server with 4 cores. If it will not be overselled, it can handle 4 VPS x 1 core only! So how much should cost VPS to get profit? 30$/mo or more?

      Low end providers should oversell a lot to get service profitable. And overselling doesn't mean low quality services. Stupid question.

    • stefemanstefeman Member
      edited December 2016

      Overselling is bad when it becomes overloading.. If you know the margins, overselling is generally fine. Then again there are those that promise 1 GB RAM but 768 MB of it is "swapped RAM" or whatever they call it nowdays.

      Thanked by 2deadbeef Antonio
    • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

      Next poll: "Are low end users expecting to much for the price of a Doritos dip?"

    • VPS performance wouldn't be as bad if number counters with OCD would stop running benchmarks 24/7. You'll see this on a LEB post with a new offer, people asking for benchmarks and 10+ responses with benchmarks then the occasional person canceling because it's slow (due to benchmark OCD).

      Thanked by 1jar
    • Some. Mostly it's OpenVZ being oversold as it allows it easily.

    • Oversell then overdrunk

    • "Overselling" and "quality service" aren't necessarily strongly correlated until you reach a certain point, beyond which a server is too oversold for it to be used in a meaningful way. It is possible to oversell and provide good quality service, as many LET providers do.

      Thanked by 1Antonio
    • bacloudbacloud Member, Patron Provider

      @tmwc said:
      Some. Mostly it's OpenVZ being oversold as it allows it easily.

      it is possible to oversell ALL virtualizizations.

    • Definitely QUALITY.

    • We oversell but because of the nature of the service (per hour billing) it's hard to measure the usage so it has to be done dynamically, when creating an instance if a hypervisor disk is approaching the 25% available mark then that hypervisor is immediately ruled out, there's different thresholds like the amount of VMs it holds etc.

      Generally it works well.

    • perryoo11perryoo11 Member
      edited December 2016

      @PepeSilvia said:
      Whats with all these dumb polls here lately?

      Well a ylyl threads are not funny anymore

      /jk

    • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

      flopv said: overselling VPS or they are providing quality services

      Not mutually exclusive.

    • asterisk14asterisk14 Member
      edited December 2016

      How about a new survey looking at how many ONE man band LEB providers there are? LOL ;-)

    • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider

      @asterisk14 said:
      How about a new survey looking at how many ONE man band LEB providers there are? LOL ;-)

      People like me are perfectly fine with saying their service is a one man show ;-)

    • HannanHannan Member, Host Rep

      It depends on the provider and the offer they make. To be honest if the offer sounds very crazy then most probably it is oversell.

      Thanks

    • user123user123 Member
      edited December 2016

      @MikeA said:

      @asterisk14 said:
      How about a new survey looking at how many ONE man band LEB providers there are? LOL ;-)

      People like me are perfectly fine with saying their service is a one man show ;-)

      What happens to one-man LET shows when they suffer wrist injuries from pumping out the "happy" tissues?

    • MikeAMikeA Member, Patron Provider
      edited December 2016

      @user123 said:

      @MikeA said:

      @asterisk14 said:
      How about a new survey looking at how many ONE man band LEB providers there are? LOL ;-)

      People like me are perfectly fine with saying their service is a one man show ;-)

      What happens to one-man LET shows when they suffer wrist injuries from pumping out the "happy" tissues?

      You're asking the wrong guy!

    • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

      OpenVZ can be sold 4:1 without any impact on end users, 8:1 with quality hardware, 16:1 can be done but your pushing it, and obviously those numbers are not set in stone as no one can accurately predict what your end users are going to be doing.

    • @AnthonySmith
      Don't tell me my LES box is oversold :O

    • The VPS node performance will depend on how much are all the VPSes using like resources.
      It is possible to have may be 100 VPSes and they are all idling.

    • GET A SLICE BYTE!

      Thanked by 1ehab
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