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delimiter - Customer order denied because of CreditCard not known to CC issuer

HRxM2HRxM2 Member
edited October 2015 in General

so,

i order dedicated with delimiter, $10 cost, ok, I paid visa, after 5 days, I was contacting support asking why delay, order management said my payment was held because could not "verify address with credit card company or CVV2" (because i used prepaid visa), and they claim my address invalid so i say i valid, and offer to change my adddress to PO box to satisfy, and they then staff rudely kick me out saying i lie, when i do not lie.

ticket # 463872

i pmd @markturner about this, no reply since I sent ticket quote , it just annoying becaus i need server urgently, and i paid...

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  • Your order got rejected because you used an bogus address that could not even be verified by the mail service in your country, your credit card failed name verification, address verification, CVV2 check AND postal code verification.

    When challenged, you said it was valid which it blatantly wasn't. Even your credit card company refused to verify it.

    Lets think do we want a customer passing a potentially stolen card? No thanks!

  • To be fair, if they doubt your address is legit, the correct response is not 'I'll change it to a PO Box then'.

  • @MarkTurner said:
    Your order got rejected because you used an bogus address that could not even be verified by the mail service in your country, your credit card failed name verification, address verification, CVV2 check AND postal code verification.

    When challenged, you said it was valid which it blatantly wasn't. Even your credit card company refused to verify it.

    Lets think do we want a customer passing a potentially stolen card? No thanks!

    I could easy photograph it.... no one gave me chance.

    i could easy id verify ...... no one gave me chance.

    your system flaw!!!

  • LeeLee Veteran

    HRxM2 said: your system flaw!!!

    I think it's your system that's flaw!!!

  • HRxM2 said: I could easy photograph it.... no one gave me chance.
    i could easy id verify ...... no one gave me chance
    your system flaw!!!

    No-one is going to take someone who passes a credit card where name, address and postal cost fails verification. Think about that, there is something VERY wrong with that situation.

    If address verification fails, well it could be a typo in the street address, if the postal code fails then thats less likely but its reasonable to assume you can type your name so that shouldn't fail.

    They tried to look up your address on your country's postal service and the address doesn't verify. They typed it into Google Map and it says invalid house number.

    Lets do the maths:

    • Bad Name
    • Bad Address
    • Bad Postal code

    That just stinks of fraud to me.

    If something is that fundamentally wrong, then there is no way anyone would accept you. Irrespective of whatever 'id' you may produce.

    If you pay by credit card, people want to see the basic things like name/address get verified. Otherwise you don't have a leg to stand on when it turns out it was a stolen card.

    Find another provider to try to pass off your name/address/card details to. Delimiter will not accept orders from you.

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  • PieHasBeenEatenPieHasBeenEaten Member, Host Rep

    They actually verified your information. Humm that is really annoying! Wow so annoying!

    Thanked by 2MarkTurner TheCTS
  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    If it walks like a stolen credit card, talks like a stolen credit card, and looks like a stolen credit card...

    It's not worth $10.

  • @Jar said:
    If it walks like a stolen credit card, talks like a stolen credit card, and looks like a stolen credit card...

    It's not worth $10.

    i offer to show it not stolen............ -.-

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    HRxM2 said: not stolen

    it is borrow from an unknow pal. Don't be so rude!

  • HRxM2 said: i offer to show it not stolen............ -.-

    If this is your idea of how security works, that a picture of a card will prove it isn't stolen, you shouldn't be operating a server on the Internet.

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • @HRxM2 said:
    i offer to show it not stolen............ -.-

    If you have a prepaid card it wouldn't have your name on it anyway right?

    Unless prepaid means something else in your country..

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • LeeLee Veteran

    @HRxM2

    You should speak with @Maounique, he will teach you how to evade capture from the capitalist pigs that you seek service from.

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  • DerekDerek Member
    edited October 2015

    @HRxM2

    Most Pre-paid cards have options to set your information for verification purposes.

    Login to check your balance, click on Update Information.

    -Make sure you set a proper zip and information. Save

    You have to do this to be able to order online and gas stations.

  • delimiter GOOD

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited October 2015

    Lee said: You should speak with @Maounique, he will teach you how to evade capture from the capitalist pigs that you seek service from.

    Capitalism is good, greed is good, what is not good is cutting the branch from under our feet.
    If you cut spending and boost investment and export, you will subsidize whoever prints money, IF you manage to actually export in the first place.
    You should not give money to the people which already have them and are not interested or can't spend, while printing them and risking a huge runaway inflation when those money will actually unfreeze, instead you should tax the unused money and give them to people which move them fast, which actually need to spend to live.
    This is not socialism, this is economy, it is how things work, or should work.
    In 1929 the answer to the crisis was to cut spending which meant people had nothing to spend and the production had to be destroyed so the price will not go under the production cost, so there was "extra" food on the market while people were starving, now we do taxcuts for rich to "invest" which actually inflates prices on the stock markets and does little else, while we do austerity for the poor which means that, even if we had investment, nobody would be able to buy the end products, because capitalism needs consumption first and production later, there must be a need to be fulfilled by productions, the money should trickle up, not down.

    TL;DR- Austerity does not benefit anyone, the rich cannot invest to make more money, the poor have no money to spend and create demand, the banks cant lend and make profits so must rely on fees and lending to governments to finance the deficits generated by economy contraction due to austerity.

  • LeeLee Veteran

    Maounique said: Capitalism is good

    I knew I could rely on you! :P

  • Maounique said: You should not give money to the people which already have them and are not interested or can't spend, while printing them and risking a huge runaway inflation when those money will actually unfreeze, instead you should tax the unused money and give them to people which move them fast, which actually need to spend to live.

    This is not socialism, this is economy, it is how things work, or should work.

    You are forgetting that the money of the rich doesn't just rot in a corner. It gets invested so it's definitely not being useless. If you took away their money, you wouldn't be able to tax their 10% return every year anymore..

    If you increase taxes, they will just go to a country with lower taxes. It might be better to lower taxes overall, to attract more rich people, more money, more investments.. see Switzerland.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited October 2015

    4n0nx said: You are forgetting that the money of the rich doesn't just rot in a corner. It gets invested so it's definitely not being useless. If you took away their money, you wouldn't be able to tax their 10% return every year anymore..

    If you increase taxes, they will just go to a country with lower taxes. It might be better to lower taxes overall, to attract more rich people, more money, more investments.. see Switzerland.

    1. Yes they do rot in a corner, inflating prices on the stock market is that, more or less;
    2. 10% a year from the profits (even in the remote chance they do pay it) is way less than 30% a year from the income of the workers (which is more or less sure), through sale taxes, income taxes, and much more, plus you tax it multiple times since those money are actually being spent a few times in a year, you get to 100% or more, depends on many factors, but you get the idea;
    3. The neocons propaganda you quoted has little to do with real economy which states a need must exist first for an investment to be feasible in order to cover it. If there is no need or people cant afford the product due to most income going on food if that, then there cannot be feasible investment, at most series of bubbles, pyramid schemes, no matter how much money those rich people have or the banks can lend;
    4. Nobody, and especially not big corporations, pay taxes due to the goodness of their heart, you must force them do it, this is why the governments have fiscal laws and organizations to prosecute tax evasion, instead of launching mass surveillance to "defend" against poor people and the disgruntlement generated by unemployment and bad economy, should attack the corporations which siphon money and cheat environmental laws.
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  • OK, I still wonder how the try of a fraud guy to bash a good provider because they rejected giving him service due to his lies, turned to a politics 101 class!
    But, that's LET!

    (P.S. I'm with @Maounique in this field, agree with most of his opinions about it...)

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    jvnadr said: (P.S. I'm with @Maounique in this field, agree with most of his opinions about it...)

    I am an economist first and geek later, neither economy, nor IT must be done for an intrinsic purpose, saving only, investing only, collecting lebs to measure uptime or "dd test" should not be a sport, should have a purpose.
    Money are good if being rich is not the end purpose, they must be a means to an end, other than being rich.
    I am leaning on the right as an economist, I am against government waste, big state regulating everything, nanny state and the like, I believe the individual should have full freedom and take full responsibility for their actions, the state has to use force only against people and organizations which have too much power AND abuse it, like the power to lobby for lower taxes, the power to force lower wages, lower environmental standards, etc, but the fault for this problem lies at the other end, the individual which does not vote according to their interest, but according to propaganda, if you have no brain, you pay the consequences, if the billions spent in hate speeches in politics and churches would not sway anyone or just a fringe retarded minority, then we would all benefit, unfortunately, even educated people are taken away by the propaganda so there is no hope.

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  • Maounique said: even educated people are taken away by the propaganda so there is no hope

    True, can assure you for that due to my profession (most of us -not me- are the loudspeakers for that propaganda...)

    On the other hand, I'm leaning on the left thinking that nowadays "economical freedom" is not even close to what even right wing great economists have said or write in the past... "Freedom of the market" actually today means that speculators and crows may dissolve economies of entire nations through banking products, stock market and derivatives without governments can control it, if and when they are not themselves corrupted...

  • We need lowendpolitics and lowendreligions in the lowend network.

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • @GM2015 said:
    We need lowendpolitics and lowendreligions in the lowend network.

    Or alternatively, neither.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited October 2015

    Economy should not be politics. It fails because of it.

    jvnadr said: On the other hand, I'm leaning on the left thinking that nowadays "economical freedom" is not even close to what even right wing great economists have said or write in the past... "Freedom of the market" actually today means that speculators and crows may dissolve economies of entire nations through banking products, stock market and derivatives without governments can control it, if and when they are not themselves corrupted...

    Exactly what i said above, Economy is used as a political tool, manipulate it to benefit the class which pays for politician elections, guess who can afford those billions and needs to take them back with interests of 10k-100k percent later? Only that it goes so bad that way that even the rich lose out in the end, so they started to raise minimal wage, that will spread in any country which still has some sane leaders.

  • @Lee, I blame you for this thread.

    Anyway, @HRxM2, stop scamming and become honest. Then you'll get your server.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @0xdragon said:
    Lee, I blame you for this thread.

    The most successful troll simply drops a bomb and walks away ;)

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    0xdragon said: @Lee, I blame you for this thread.

    Moral of the thread, be careful whom you summon, you may raise more devils than you can put down :P

  • kkrajkkkrajk Member
    edited October 2015

    @MarkTurner

    To be fair to the OP: My address doesn't get recognised by our postal system. The postcode is for the entire locality which is approximately 2 square kilometres. The streets adjacent to mine are all listed on govt registry and other records but mine. Google lists adjacent streets but mine. This doesn't mean my address doesn't exist and so do the other houses / residents of the street. It is listed on my passport and all other government documents yet you wouldn't be able to trace my street through an online search.

    Even a popular street address on google map might throw in an error because mapping isn't that well done as it is a fairly newer process here unlike the US or most western countries and the very underpaid on-field surveyors can't be bothered to get the geolocation / street names /details right (My locality name has been assigned to a different locality five kilometres away on google maps )

    Country - India

    City - Chennai (Madras)

    So, Kindly provide the OP enough opportunities to prove his / her identity to you(r) company.

  • @ez2uk said:
    So, Kindly provide the OP enough opportunities to prove his / her identity to you(r) company.

    He had two chances..

    your credit card failed name verification, address verification, CVV2 check AND postal code verification.

    Even your credit card company refused to verify it.

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  • @Maounique said:
    Capitalism is good, greed is good, what is not good is cutting the branch from under our feet.

    If you cut spending and boost investment and export, you will subsidize whoever prints money, IF you manage to actually export in the first place.
    You should not give money to the people which already have them and are not interested or can't spend, while printing them and risking a huge runaway inflation when those money will actually unfreeze, instead you should tax the unused money and give them to people which move them fast, which actually need to spend to live.
    This is not socialism, this is economy, it is how things work, or should work.
    In 1929 the answer to the crisis was to cut spending which meant people had nothing to spend and the production had to be destroyed so the price will not go under the production cost, so there was "extra" food on the market while people were starving, now we do taxcuts for rich to "invest" which actually inflates prices on the stock markets and does little else, while we do austerity for the poor which means that, even if we had investment, nobody would be able to buy the end products, because capitalism needs consumption first and production later, there must be a need to be fulfilled by productions, the money should trickle up, not down.

    TL;DR- Austerity does not benefit anyone, the rich cannot invest to make more money, the poor have no money to spend and create demand, the banks cant lend and make profits so must rely on fees and lending to governments to finance the deficits generated by economy contraction due to austerity.

    The amount of Keynesian nonsense mixed with fascism stuffed in 2 paragraphs is amazing. Good job @Maounique, had a great laugh.

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