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Setting up a DMCA free file sharing site?

DroidzoneDroidzone Member
edited May 2015 in Help

No, it's not about sharing porn or video clips online. There are certain groups of professionals on Facebook, who share pdfs of technical and medical books to people who cannot afford them (medical and other students of third world countries). I can't argue to justify their actions. Obviously one could argue that it leads to loss of revenue of the publishers, and authors. But they could never have bought these books anyway. They might have perused the books at their local libraries if they were available. But it is doubtful whether all these books would be available in the libraries of most third world nation universities. Anyway I won't digress. Arguing for and against this is beyond the scope of discussion.

I would like to set up a site where these people could share files. Typically uploading via php, and downloading with direct links after logging in. The frontend isnt the issue.

How would one protect against takedown notices? I'm thinking that the domain registration itself should be safeguarded. And so also the provider should be one who keeps a blind eye to the activity and notices. Is there such a provider over here? What's the history of OVH and online.net with these? The second question is how can the IP and domain be protected? Does Cloudflare kick you out if you "mask" your IP with their service?

I most certainly do not want to hunt hackforums for a solution.

I thought of putting the site on the onion network, but most of the people using this would be technically challenged, and asking them to install tor would be a problem. So also the speeds of downloading via tor would be a setback. Torrents also arent so convenient, but of course are a solution.

It should not be so challenging. It's not child pornography or terrorist activities. It's just sharing books.

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  • This is something I deal with a lot. DMCA and copyright. You will struggle to deal with it, I instead just work around it. 3 VPSes in roundrobin protecting the file server. Although you will work to resolve DMCA some assholes just got straight to the IP owner

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited May 2015

    Copyright for books is less in Russia (few years) - You can host there and just avoid the issues entirely.

    Depending on your budget there are a lot of providers able to fulfill it - But i won't post them public.

    CF WILL kick you after a certain point.

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  • TinyTunnel_Tom said: 3 VPSes in roundrobin protecting the file server.

    Could you shed some more light on the implementation?

    TinyTunnel_Tom said: Although you will work to resolve DMCA some assholes just got straight to the IP owner

    Can Cloudflare "shield" me from this? I was thinking of setting up an ipv6 only site and using Cloudflare to proxy ipv4 to ipv6.

    William said: You can host there and just avoid the issues entirely.

    Is there a Russian based lowend provider here? Any recommendations? Should I use a Russian domain registrar as well?

    I would have thought that Wikileaks domain would have been taken down. But apparently their registrar is US based (Dynadot)..

  • nitro85nitro85 Member
    edited May 2015

    I dont think you will have much trouble just with .pdf files...

    For filehosting script I recommend you Yetishare

    xFilesharing and Yetishare are the biggest filehosting scripts on the market

    xFilesharing is more expensive and requires a lot of addons, its also coded in Perl

    Yetishare is simpler and PHP coded

  • nitro85 said: I dont think you will have much trouble just with .pdf files...

    Unfortunately the file format does not matter much where takedown notices are concerned. The books were popularly uploaded to Mediafire. Most of the links are dead now.

    nitro85 said: xFilesharing and Yetishare

    Thank you. But I prefer to go with open source solutions, or would code it myself.

  • nitro85nitro85 Member
    edited May 2015

    @joelgm said:
    Unfortunately the file format does not matter much where takedown notices are concerned. The books were popularly uploaded to Mediafire. Most of the links are dead now.

    Mediafire may be the worst of them all in terms of taking down content, they are US based, above 90% of filehosts these days are in EU / use EU servers

    If you want to avoid DMCA completelly, throwing the responsability to others the best way, use a Multiupload like script and public downloads are linked other filehosts

    PDF files arent that big, you can mirror it as much as possible through multiple filehosts

    http://sibsoft.net/xfilemirror.html

  • Mostly they're under 250MB. Some medical books may be huge -they contain a lot of high resolution images.

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    joelgm said: Is there a Russian based lowend provider here?

    Vstoike.ru - top notch service from my 6+ months with them.

  • nitro85nitro85 Member
    edited May 2015

    @joelgm said:
    Mostly they're under 250MB. Some medical books may be huge -they contain a lot of high resolution images.

    I dont think you will have much trouble, this kind of content ain't much mainstream, just get a fileserver in Leaseweb

    Leaseweb is the main/most popular EU hosting company of this kind of filehosts, they deal quite well with DMCA
    Even megaupload had dozens of Pb there

    Use Leaseweb for fileserver and the mainsite in another company

    Use cloudflare for both main site and fileserver subdomains

  • @joelgm said:

    joelgm said: Can Cloudflare "shield" me from this? I was thinking of setting up an ipv6 only site and using Cloudflare to proxy ipv4 to ipv6.

    >

    Cloudflare will just give out your host/IP if someone asks.

  • @joelgm said:

    Yeti share isnt encoded, but horrible. I can discuss more via iMessage and Skype. Please PM for my details

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  • hostnoob said: Cloudflare will just give out your host/IP if someone asks.

    That's what I thought.

    TinyTunnel_Tom said: I can discuss more via iMessage and Skype.

    Will message you right after my exams.

  • You can't have it both ways. You can pick:

    DMCA loaded, or paid file hosting. Take your pick. It will always get DMCA, no matter how hard you try, think megaupload.

  • cociucociu Member

    we can help you too , pm if you still interesed

  • @KwiceroLTD said:
    DMCA loaded, or paid file hosting.

    I don't understand why you think that a file hosting provider wouldn't honour dmca notices. Let me be clear-I'm not trying to set up on a free provider. I just don't want to shell out huge lumps for the script. My real issue is privacy and keeping the infrastructure in place.

  • cociu said: we can help you too , pm if you still interesed

    Do you mean to say you dont care about DMCA? Arent there any Romanian antipiracy laws that may be violated?

  • cociucociu Member

    @joelgm no problem for DMCA here , only porncild is illegal

  • @cociu said:
    joelgm no problem for DMCA here , only porncild is illegal

    DMCA is US law however RO WILL have a equiv which will likely have your DC raided

  • @cociu said:
    joelgm no problem for DMCA here , only porncild is illegal

    So you'd happily host terrorists?

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    Hosting terrorists, even al-qaeda and IS, is not illegal in most EU countries.

  • TinyTunnel_Tom said: RO WILL have a equiv which will likely have your DC raided

    Russia, doesn't though?

  • cociucociu Member

    @TinyTunnel_Tom if i public here something i assume, we totaly ignore DMCA

  • cociucociu Member

    @KwiceroLTD its no ilegal but its my rule to no have suck thing here in our servers

  • cociucociu Member

    any way , no lost more time , @joelgm if you are decided please pm

  • cociucociu Member

    @joelgm said:

    what you need to post is a rumanian production ?

  • cociu said: what you need to post is a rumanian production ?

    I'm sorry. You've lost me.

    cociu said: any way , no lost more time , @joelgm if you are decided please pm

    I'm not in a hurry to buy hosting.

  • sc754sc754 Member

    Maybe find a webhost in a country well known for not having strict laws on this kind of thing. Then use a tunnel to your fileserver or something to feed the files to the webhost when users upload / download them

  • The problem here is simple but hard to solve - you can't control what users are uploading.

    If somebody will upload really illegal content cp for example - that will be a real problem.

    Get ip block swipped to you, so you'll handle abuses not your provider. OVH does this, not sure about soyoustart line.

  • sc754sc754 Member

    @alexvolk said:
    The problem here is simple but hard to solve - you can't control what users are uploading.

    If somebody will upload really illegal content cp for example - that will be a real problem.

    Get ip block swipped to you, so you'll handle abuses not your provider. OVH does this, not sure about soyoustart line.

    Surely you could limit filetypes, file size etc with the upload script?

  • alexvolk said: Get ip block swipped to you, so you'll handle abuses not your provider. OVH does this, not sure about soyoustart line.

    The problem is that "all" of this content is illegal in the sense that they violate intellectual property rights. They're pdfs of expensive books. I don't want to have to remove the content when DMCA notices flow in.

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