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Spammed By LimestoneNetworks

24khost24khost Member
edited October 2012 in General

Hi Jonothon,

I want to start off thanking you for putting your efforts into 24khost.com . I have been reaching out to websites like your own who are driven by better serving others and have the potential to grow. My name is Richard Payne and I am in business development with Limestone Networks. We are a dedicated server provider out of Dallas, Texas. I was wondering if I could have a few moments of your time via email, to communicate what Limestone Networks can do for you, as well as provide you with a few custom quotes for our dedicated servers if desired. I look forward to hearing from you.

P.S.- At this current point I will be able to quote you with some extremely great prices

I feel special, spammed by a large company.

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  • LiamLiam Administrator

    Reply back and say it's Mr Wright to you.

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  • CoreyCorey Member

    we've had this before as well.

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    @Liam good point! I just couldn't believe that I got this email. As Yoda would say -> Struggling to get new customers are they?

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  • DamianDamian Member
    edited October 2012

    @24khost said: The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only. Any disclosure, use or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited.

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    Anyway, we'd get this every few months also. You'd think they would get the hint...

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    @Damian Problem is they violated my rights by sending me the spam in the first place as I didn't request it. So by me not agreeing to recieve this spam, and I didn't agree to these rules before I recieved it. I believe I have done nothing wrong.

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  • DamianDamian Member

    @24khost: Indeed. You should respond to their email, soliciting your own services.

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  • RandyRandy Disabled
    edited October 2012

    LOL send to Kris.anderson@limestonenetworks.com and see what is their reply.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Member

    A link to this thread wont hurt in his inbox. M

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  • 24khost24khost Member
    edited October 2012

    So Richard wrote to me after he saw this post.

    Hi Jonothon,

    The email is not spam. I am not trying to spam any website, but to help them with better prices and a rock-solid network.

    I responded With a carbon copy to kris.anderson@limestonenetworks.com but was returned unknown user.

    fixed the address i think should be k.anderson@limestonenetworks.com here is what i returned to him.

    Richard Payne,

    This was unsolicited, intern making it spam. I have not, been a customer, have not signed up to recieve solicitations from you. Please do not contact me further.

    This email is also being forwarded to Kris.anderson@limestonenetworks.com on his/her views as to this type of marketing.

    Sincerly,

    Jonothon Wright 24khost.com

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    By the way do you guys find what I have done in this post out of line?

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  • eastoncheastonch Member
    edited October 2012

    This part makes me cringe:

    "P.S.- At this current point I will be able to quote you with some extremely great prices"

    Not only are they offering their services and custom quotes and one to one talking with their Business guy, but they're tempting you with a "PS"? Must be a rought time for LSN.

    @24KHost I find that with you posting the entire e-mail is breaking their little "privacy" statement at the bottom, but you've done no harm, you could of given us the jist; they may kick up a fuss :). Can't beleive this sort of crap happens.

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  • BoltersdriveerBoltersdriveer Member

    @24khost said: By the way do you guys find what I have done in this post out of line?

    Not really... Everything you've done at this point seem reasonable.

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  • LiamLiam Administrator
    edited October 2012

    I find this quite amusing, not very professional. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151053351150974&set=a.10150183716035974.301378.62411645973&type=1&theater

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    @eastonch. I mean really they can't get down to the prices I get. I am pretty sure of it. But if I wanted a quote I would have asked for it. Just kinda floored me and i thought you guys would enjoy it.

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  • eastoncheastonch Member

    @Liam, mind posting it on a img sharing site? College doesnt like Facebook ;)

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    @Liam I second that.

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  • eastoncheastonch Member

    @24khost Yeah; when I look at dedi's I go to providers I've been with before, I don't wait for them to contact me; and I certainly don't go for deals like this.

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  • NexusNexus Member

    @eastonch

    image Hope your college likes imageshack!

    Supposedly, this is the ceo with his girlfriend at a park? Seems like so much fun!

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  • eastoncheastonch Member

    ohhh, so that's where monthly rent goes? Haha, cool!

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  • NexusNexus Member

    Haha, just a quick question, why would the ceo of a company have a picture of his friends/girlfriend at a fair on their business facebook page? Company seems legit!!

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  • eastoncheastonch Member

    That's a good point, that was posted on their wall? Seems bad..

    The only thing to this recreational fun that would make the company look better in any respect, is possibly group photos of all the techies at six flags or some other US theme park ^^, then a screenshot of the ticket system blowing up during their outing :)!

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  • DamianDamian Member

    Company outing?

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    So i had to edit the first post. As Kris said there could be legal ramifications if i didn't. Not that I am really worried as they would be in violation of the canned spam act. Regardless they are removing me from there marketing list. So this is kinda funny.

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  • LiamLiam Administrator

    @24khost said: So i had to edit the first post. As Kris said there could be legal ramifications if i didn't. Not that I am really worried as they would be in violation of the canned spam act. Regardless they are removing me from there marketing list. So this is kinda funny.

    What is he doing to make up for it? Did he apologise?

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  • DamianDamian Member
    edited October 2012

    @24khost said: could be legal ramifications if i didn't.

    I'm pretty sure you would have won.. I don't recall a United States court case where the soliciting party won. Other countries may not be the same.

    @Liam said: What is he doing to make up for it? Did he apologise?

    +1 for that. Did they offer anything at all? Or just threaten with legal action? If their default action is to threaten with legal action, might be a company to stay away from.

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  • eastoncheastonch Member
    edited October 2012

    @24khost I wonder how long it is before you end back up on that list.

    Curious about the legal rammifications; how can they send you a agreement that you're automatically agreeing too, without any preior knowledge? Seems fishy.

    @Liam I'm interested in this too.

    @Damian -- An outing and images would be great to post, but not pictures of him and his fiance / gf / wife or "partner" queing up for a ride. :)

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    Hi Kris,

    My name is Jonothon Wright, not Richard. I see that you are the Director of Support, I figured you could send this on to his supervisor.

    As to the legal threat located in your last email. This email from your company may have the DMCA language in it. That would be a hard case to win, as it was a unsolicited marketing email.

    I don't want to get into a debate about this I have removed the original message and shortened it.I appreciate that you have responded but please if you can send this further up the chain I would appreciate it.

    Jonothon Wright 24khost

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  • RandyRandy Disabled

    LSN is a good company, but this is not acceptable

  • 24khost24khost Member

    oh my lord. I have been forwarded to the legal department now. @Cheif You will be receiving a dmca take down notice for the email portion I have posted.

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  • DamianDamian Member

    @Damian said: might be definately a company to stay away from.

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    Agreed!

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  • BoltersdriveerBoltersdriveer Member

    Yikes... A little on the scary side :(

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  • ZenZen Member

    'Business Development' just created a #1 Google search result showing bad publicity, prepare2befired.

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  • ArronSG123ArronSG123 Member

    @24khost you should edit the title to Limestonenetworks and add the word review somewhere in the first post :)

  • 24khost24khost Member

    I feel a fail coming!

    Okay, here is the funny thing there dmca threat doesn't hold up as here is language from the dmca

    The transmission must be initiated by a person other than the provider.

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    So I am not bound by there dmca notice as they were in violation to start with.

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  • ArronSG123ArronSG123 Member

    @24khost said: I feel a fail coming!

    Okay, here is the funny thing there dmca threat doesn't hold up as here is language from the dmca

    The transmission must be initiated by a person other than the provider.

    I'd post it on WHT too if I was you.

  • ArronSG123ArronSG123 Member

    Change cat to General too as 'Offtopic' is members only.

  • 24khost24khost Member

    Chaned to General.

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  • LiamLiam Administrator
    edited October 2012

    @ArronSG123 said: I'd post it on WHT too if I was you.

    +1. Contacted Chief for you regarding dmca.

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    Thanks I have to see what he wants to do. I did do my research though and they have no leg to stand on.

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  • 24khost24khost Member
    edited October 2012

    I believe section 512 read

    Limitation for Transitory Communications

    In general terms, section 512(a) limits the liability of service providers in circumstances where the provider merely acts as a data conduit, transmitting digital information from one point on a network to another at someone else’s request. This limitation covers acts of transmission, routing, or providing connections for the information, as well as the intermediate and transient copies that are made automatically in the operation of a network. In order to qualify for this limitation, the service provider’s activities must meet the following conditions: __! The transmission must be initiated by a person other than the provider. __! The transmission, routing, provision of connections, or copying must be carried out by an automatic technical process without selection of material by the service provider. __! The service provider must not determine the recipients of the material. __! Any intermediate copies must not ordinarily be accessible to anyone other than anticipated recipients, and must not be retained for longer than reasonably necessary. __! The material must be transmitted with no modification to its content.

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=8375313#post8375313

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  • eastoncheastonch Member

    Oh look, LSN's reputation demolished in all of about 20 posts, wow.

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  • 24khost24khost Member

    Wasn't trying to do that but, I guess if that is what happens.

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Member
    edited October 2012

    grabs popcorn

    Sometimes it is unbelievable how a good company otherwise would go to such lows to protect the "confidentiality" of their spammy emails. I mean, WTF should be confidential in a spam mail sent to at least tens if not hundreds of hosts ? Did they imagine this will remain out of the public eye ? Are they really thinking that sending that disclaimer means you agree with it automatically ? Then any company will be able to send such a thing entering a legal contract with you... Or maybe they need to protect the "IP rights" of their marketing staff which came up with such a brilliant idea and write-up of a good ad. The whole marketing department and now the legal department should be fired. M

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  • LV_MattLV_Matt Member

    There not the only ones, ColoCrossing have sent us an email (via our online contact sales form) once or twice which was unsolicited, which he stated he found my company via LowEndBox.

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  • ArronSG123ArronSG123 Member

    @Liam said: Contacted Chief for you regarding dmca.

    From what I've read i can't see him caring.

  • 24khost24khost Member

    @LV_Matt funny thing is ColoCrossing is where LowEndTalk is at and that is where the dmca take down notice will be sent supposedly.

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  • LV_MattLV_Matt Member

    @24khost said: @LV_Matt funny thing is ColoCrossing is where LowEndTalk is at and that is where the dmca take down notice will be sent supposedly.

    I can't see them giving too hoots about it since they actively do it themselves.

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