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Would you host with GoDaddy? If so, give one good reason.

Would you host with GoDaddy? If so, give one good reason.

PhoenixVPSPhoenixVPS Member
edited September 2012 in General

Most likely no one here would, but maybe someone new might stumble on this topic. Anyway, if you are currently or are considering it, please give at least one good reason why you would.

Thank you

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  • JackJack Member
    edited September 2012

    Off the network clients are on incase of a network outage clients can contact you?

  • @Jack I don't really understand the question. Maybe I need more coffee :)

  • @vpsnodebox said: I don't really understand the question. Maybe I need more coffee :)

    Basically your site/support system is online as it's OFF the network your clients are on if you had a network outage...

  • Ash_HawkridgeAsh_Hawkridge Member
    edited September 2012

    He's saying, yes for redundancy purposes. And lmao at the elephant tag.

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  • @GetKVM_Ash Everyone does things differently. We have enough equipment to take care of our own redundancies. Even if I had to use another provider, it wouldn't be them for sure. I'd rather use Linode before them.

  • TazTaz Disabled
    edited September 2012

    Dream on guys, Godaddy still hosts more site then combining five or even all of the biggest LET good boy hosts. Thats a fact. They know what they are doing and what they are doing seems to work better than what most others are doing.

    For your average hosting needs, godaddy still does better than a lot of hosts out there, They do not need to do a monthly network update, they do not have failed hardware issue on a monthly basis, they rarely have blacklisted ip and has better support than a lot of other famous host.

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  • Well I don't like them, I don't use them, I won't host with them, however the fact that they are so big means that they are doing something right.

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  • @Taz_NinjaHawk They have money. If some venture capitalist would drop a couple of million dollars in your lap I'm sure we would see less of you around here as you would be busy growing :) You don't have to do anything right if you have money. If people perceive you as a big powerful company they will put up with your shit. GoDaddy has tons of disgruntled customers, but yet they will put up with GoDaddy because ... they are big.

  • @Taz_NinjaHawk said: Godaddy still hosts more site then combining five or even all of the biggest LET good boy hosts.

    Godaddy is the #1 host in the world even if you combine all EIG owned companies, but they have a captive audiance while selling you a domain....

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    @vpsnodebox said: GoDaddy has tons of disgruntled customers

    Because they are big. That's is why.

    The only reason VPS nodebox doesn't have negative review cause they do not have millions of customer. It is the nature of the industry. Godaddy also have a shit load of legit good reviews. Come up with a better argument.

    @vpsnodebox said: I'm sure we would see less of you around here as you would be busy growing

    Brent was still active on WHT when he was running HG, Godaddy has 3 active rep on WHT and I am pretty sure 1 will be joining LET within this week ;). ...... Got better points?

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  • @vpsnodebox said: GoDaddy has tons of disgruntled customers

    And megatons of customers overall, so a few tons of disgruntled ones is small potatoes :)

    Not sure when we started measuring customers by the ton....

  • Anyone here would be very happy making a niche just to pick up the scraps from GoDaddy

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  • No trying to be cynical, but @vpsnodebox you seem to be opening threads about providers - Linode, now GoDaddy to give them some negative press. It's the way you opened the discussion - I can't find anything good about them... maybe someone can...

    I think we all know the answers, so?

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  • @concerto49 said: No trying to be cynical, but @vpsnodebox you seem to be opening threads about providers - Linode, now GoDaddy to give them some negative press. It's the way you opened the discussion - I can't find anything good about them... maybe someone can...

    The one about Linode was positive wasn't it?

  • @Jack said: The one about Linode was positive wasn't it?

    No it was negative, at least from vpsnodebox perspective. It was along the lines of, "I hate Linode, always have, no someone please provide me wrong."

    Could have always said, "Hi all, what do you all think of Linode or Godaddy. Let's start a discussion on it." I'd be much nicer.

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  • PhoenixVPSPhoenixVPS Member
    edited September 2012

    @concerto49 Not really. The general bitching / consensus about Linode IIRC where two major things: 1) Their aging infrastructure. 2) Their shitty policy when it comes to DDoS attacks and null-routing.

    Let me tell you something: if any of would do what godaddy does and present / stack / sell services like they do we would be labeled as scum. They have lots of customers, and honestly, for everyone's sake I hope that they keep going in the same direction and do things the way that they are doing them now. Your regular John Doe customer doesn't sign up with them because they are good, but because it's the only thing that they heard about in the media.

    Read what @serverbear has written about the path that he took to find good hosting: http://serverbear.com/about - Amazingly he didn't start with GoDaddy, but for allot of people it's a similar path.

  • TazTaz Disabled
    edited September 2012

    @Vpsnodebox Once you become godaddy or Linode size, I will come and ask you, are you going to have brand new server every two year and migrate thousands of customer on a monthly basis and raise your running cost? Or do you know your users by first name?

    I hope you will say yes. If not, piss off.

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  • PhoenixVPSPhoenixVPS Member
    edited September 2012

    @Taz_NinjaHawk said: I hope you will say yes. If not, piss off.

    I don't recall using this tone or language with you so please...

    @Taz_NinjaHawk said: Once you become godaddy or Linode size, I will come and ask you, are you going to have brand new server every two year and migrate thousands of customer on a monthly basis and raise your running cost? Or do you know your users by first name?

    I doubt it will ever happen. That being said it's all about how you design your infrastructure. An aging infrastructure is worst for you than for your customers.

    Anyway, the thread wasn't about posting negative comments about GoDaddy. I was curious who would host with them and why. Of course, it got derailed.

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    @Taz_NinjaHawk said: I hope you will say yes. If not, piss off.

    I hope you will say yes. If not, please post on Cest pit..

    There, fixed. Happy?

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  • @Taz_NinjaHawk Some folks here think that I like to pick on hosts, but I don't. The big players are a different matter, and no one here can compare themselves to them. They do business at a different level. Of course, the way they do business is not healthy, it's not healthy for the economy or for their customers. Like @miTgiB said, everyone here would be happy to just get the scraps, and many of us here could do a better job at serving the customers. So why not pick on them? Why be scared of them? If they keep growing bigger and more powerful they will go to the next step and start buying influence and power. Remember SOPA/PIPA? GoDaddy was for it until people starting moving their domains in hordes to other registrars, at which point GoDaddy pulled their support for SOPA/PIPA. At some point the little guy has to wake up and realize that he doesn't compete with the other little guy for business, but with the big players. I love the community here, I like everyone, and no matter the small arguments I don't have a single problem with anyone here. I'm sorry if I've upset anyone here with any of my comments/threads. Yes, my problem is with the big players who abuse their power every time they get the opportunity to do so.

  • @vpsnodebox said: I don't recall using this tone or language with you so please..

    If you are gonna play in our sandbox, grow some thicker skin...

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  • @miTgiB Just trying to keep things civilized :) At the end of the day this is supposed to be a friendly discussion.

  • @vpsnodebox said: So why not pick on them? Why be scared of them? If they keep growing bigger and more powerful they will go to the next step and start buying influence and power. Remember SOPA/PIPA? GoDaddy was for it until people starting moving their domains in hordes to other registrars, at which point GoDaddy pulled their support for SOPA/PIPA.

    Why pick on anyone? I'm against them over SOPA/PIPA, but then that's a different discussion - a SOPA/PIPA discussion.

    I'm not helping them, but this is a "please bash them thread". If you've got specific questions about GoDaddy, a review, a specific problem, please go ahead with it.

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  • bdtechbdtech Member
    edited September 2012

    I have a 1and1 shared plan for about eight years now. Reliable, full featured, and now their "dual hosting" redundancy is a nice perk too. Shared SQL is rock solid I don't recall any downtime at all.

    You can pop cloudflare in front of any shared host and get some pretty good performance.

    I can't stand upsell upsell GoDaddy. They are not a true web host in my mind - their core is services and domain reg.

  • PhoenixVPSPhoenixVPS Member
    edited September 2012

    @concerto49 did you read what the original thread asked? I had no intention to comment on it, just see what others had to say. But you had to start picking on me. Did I talk badly about GoDaddy in the original thread? No. I was asking a simple question: "Would you host with GoDaddy? If so, give one good reason."

    Citing out of context and reading my comments between the lines doesn't really make you look cool. Read my entire comment please if you want to understand what I was trying to say. Thank you.

  • concerto49concerto49 Member
    edited September 2012

    @vpsnodebox said: @concerto49 did you read what the original thread asked?

    Yes, but I already pointed it out, it's the tone and the language. It might not be obvious, but you're surely implying it. It's obvious you'll get a lot of negative responses this way knowing what we already think of GoDaddy. I'm all for the earlier thread discussing the patent issue for example from a host, but not just a generic bash.

    This isn't. Hey I'm new... never used GoDaddy, some help/thoughts. This is you know have issues and provoking people to add to it.

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  • @concerto49 said: Yes, but I already pointed it out, it's the tone and the language. It might not be obvious, but you're surely implying it. It's obvious you'll get a lot of negative responses this way knowing what we already think of GoDaddy. I'm all for the earlier thread discussing the patent issue for example from a host, but not just a generic bash.

    That earlier thread turned into a discussion about Bob Parsons going elephant hunting in poverty stricken Zimbabwe. Good point do.

    As far as knowing what you guys think, I have no paranormal powers and I don't like to make assumptions, that's why I ask.

    The only assumption that I make is that others are doing the same thing as me: reply only to threads that they are genuinely interested in.

  • I used GoDaddy many years ago for a good amount of time. They were a decent large shared host just like all of the others (Hostgator, 1&1, Bluehost, etc).

    Now that I know a little bit more about servers and web hosting I'd never go with GoDaddy or any shared host. For less money I could get a smaller VPS and host my site in a much faster and better balanced environment.

    As far as larger VPS hosts go I kind of have mixed opinions. I actually used Linode for over a year and they had really fast support, and their servers were pretty fast. Since I mainly just run websites I didn't notice any issues with the slightly older hardware.

    Lately I've been going back and forth between smaller VPS hosts and hosting from home. Both of which have to be the best options for me.

  • i will host static htmls with them if very cheap price

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  • GoDaddy gets the job done for a lot of people whether I like it or not. I wouldn't use them, but I used to. They motivated me to start hosting my own content, thus the birth of Catalyst. So in an odd way I do have some kind of respect for them.

  • PhoenixVPSPhoenixVPS Member
    edited September 2012

    @jarland I have started this for the same reason. It all began with a couple of Drupal project that I was working on for customers. They ran dog slow on everything that was shared hosting. GoDaddy shared hosting is not slow because they are incompetent, it's slow because they are greedy and they want to place thousands of customers on each node. Hence the 32bit CentOS 5 (with PAE enabled) on 48GB+ servers, the crippled PHP (64MB limit, lots of modules missing), no opcode cache and so on. They know they only offer the bare minimum.

    My original product that I started with was/is this: http://www.vpsnodebox.com/cloud-hosting

    When me and my brother started it was allot of trial and error until we got the right balance of features, resources and cost. I can't say that many hosts are this open about resource allocation as we are.

    As far as respect for GoDaddy: I had allot of respect for them and Bob Parsons, but their actions over the years chipped away more and more from that respect. As far as the latest publicity stunt of Bob Parsons that was meant to create controversy so that they media would talk about him and his company, I have found it of poor taste and disgusting.

    About your website: I really like the design (it's got its own personality, unique logo and so on), and the bit about what you can get for the price of a Latte is great. It's also true, because people that need hosting for their business and want to spend per month what they spend for a cup of coffee (or a Latte) get what they deserve.

  • Some interesting stats here on market share: http://trends.builtwith.com/hosting

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  • @serverbear said: Some interesting stats here on market share: http://trends.builtwith.com/hosting

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  • @Nexus According to those stats they don't host anything in the 10,000 Top sites, which means that they are the #1 company hosting all the junk. Way to go ... GoDaddy!

  • TazTaz Disabled
    edited September 2012

    @vpsnodebox Maybe because top 10000 sites require more/top resources/enterprise hosting, managed service, which isn't godaddys client base?

    Those big sites most likely have their own cluster,load balancer setup. Noticed that the ones for top 10k are mostly "cloud", full blown managed or large/biggest ISP? Who caters commercial clients only cause of their pricing structure?

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  • @Taz_NinjaHawk Your most likely right, but I was thinking more in terms of quality content / popularity as well :)

  • TazTaz Disabled

    Check this out though

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    I think EIG combined should be in the second place instead of separating Hg, Bluehost and Eig.

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • PhoenixVPSPhoenixVPS Member
    edited September 2012

    @Taz_NinjaHawk Would be nice to have some of that market share, wouldn't it? Even a slim line on that pie chart :D

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    @vpsnodebox said: @Taz_NinjaHawk Would be nice to have some of that share, wouldn't it?

    Nah, We have been doing shared hosting for almost 4 years, I own stake on another pretty popular reseller host. Not really interested in merging ninjahawk with budget shared hosting.

    We are working on our redundant shared hosting platform though. Still not sure how cpanel would re-act with such setup as we are still playing with server setup.

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • @Taz_NinjaHawk It's hard to strike the right balance. We managed to pull this off: http://www.vpsnodebox.com/cloud-hosting - and it's improved shared hosting, but to be able to offer it at that makes it difficult to make much on it. The other day I had someone who asked on a discount and free SSL and what now on the Enterprise package, and I recommended him GoDaddy for that kind of stuff. Sometimes I feel like in the long run where better off steering clear of certain customers when it comes to shared hosting.

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    @vpsnodebox said: Sometimes I feel like in the long run where better off steering clear of certain customers when it comes to shared hosting.

    Yes. And the main reason, I do not want to associate myself directly with any shared host. Not specially budget ones. If we ever manage to pull off what we are trying to archive, it might change how a lot of shared host is really offering service. Trying setup a sorta awesome failover/distributed network with minimum 3 location where files will be mirrored across mutiple servers and dns will be redundant and should have auto failover. Sill trying to see how much this is going to cost (bandwidth will be a limiting factor, but hey it never hurts to experiment :P)

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • @Taz_NinjaHawk You will most likely hit some limits / run into some problems here and there with cPanel. While it's a nice piece of software, it has some stupid limitations. Just to give you one example: you can't easily set per account or at least per package type a custom php.ini configuration when using FastCGI. If you start writing your own config files cPanel will overwrite them. Of course in your case it might be something different. No built-in support for MariaDB, Nginx, PHP-FPM, multiple IP addresses per user account, never mind the weak IPv6 support, is also a problem with cPanel. Considering that the money keeps rolling in for cPanel, they are moving at a snail's pace to implement such things. Oh, before I forget, the MySQL 5.5 support is buggy.

    Budget shared hosting? Never been a fan of it, and honestly, I don't see the point of it.

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