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Does anyone here use ksplice

Does anyone here use ksplice

AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Member
edited June 2012 in General

Does anyone in here use ksplice for rebootless kernel updates? Also, anyone using it on ovz nodes? Any thoughts, feedback about it?

And where can it be ordered, I can not see a pricing on their myne website..

Disclosure: I work for Query Foundry LLC.
I own DA International Group Ltd.
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  • @LiquidHost said: And where can it be ordered, I can not see a pricing on their myne website..

    They don't sell it anymore. Out of luck, unless you buy from somebody who stockpiled.

  • TazTaz Disabled

    http://www.ksplice.com/rhel-signup Not sure about the cost though and I do not have access.

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  • Ah damn, seemed like a really good peace of software.

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  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    It's $5 per server except ovz which is $10. I still have my account from pre-oracle. I use it on all production nodes and shared servers. Does it help? Dunno, you only get security updates, not new features added to the kernel. So I guess it does it's job when your machines don't crash often.

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    @miTgiB So this is the current price? Centos 6 supported?

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member
    edited June 2012

    As of one year ago, the cost for a 4 socket server was $2,299/year. Not sure if it's gone up since then.

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    So what is the original price? Tempted to order.

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    @NinjaHawk, those prices are pre-Oracle. Oracle's price is $2299/year per server and it appears that is only supported for Oracle Linux, not other distros.

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member
    edited June 2012
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  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @KuJoe said: As of one year ago

    I never saw pricing like that, are you thinking of something else maybe?

    This is the pricing I am currently getting. It is the same since I originally signed up. image

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    @miTgiB you purchased it pre-Oracle (July 2011).

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    @NinjaHawk Oracle said they were dropping support for RHEL... not sure if they changed their minds or not though.

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    According to Wim Coekaerts (Senior Vice President of Oracle Linux and Virtualization):

    Oracle does not plan to support the use of Ksplice technology with Red Hat Enterprise Linux or SUSE Enterprise Linux.

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  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @KuJoe said: According to Wim Coekaerts

    That's funny, Oracle Linux is just another RHEL clone in the spirit of CentOS and Scientific Linux.

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    I've contacted them directly for pricing. I'll update this thread when I hear back from them.

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member
    edited June 2012

    @miTgiB From what I understand it's not about whether they could support the software, it's about taking a jab at RHEL the company which is why they chose not to provide support for RHEL the software. Not 100% sure but hopefully I'll have an answer soon.

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  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @KuJoe said: I've contacted them directly for pricing.

    I think you will get the same response as you would get fro RedHat, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    @miTgiB That's what I'm afraid of but it can't hurt to ask. :)

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  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @KuJoe said: it's about taking a jab at RHEL the company which is why they chose not to provide support for RHEL

    Oracle Linux is just like CentOS and Scientific Linux, a 100% binary compatible clone of RHEL, they currently have no choice ... Now, support as in hey, my shit is broke, I guess you could be on your own there.

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    @miTgiB I think that's what they meant since in order to get Ksplice you need a Oracle Linux Premier Support contract ($2299/year per server as of last July).

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  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @KuJoe said: in order to get Ksplice

    I can be bribed with cookies ;)

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    Mmmm.... cookies. :)

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    @Kujoe any update?

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • @miTgiB said: That's funny, Oracle Linux is just another RHEL clone in the spirit of CentOS and Scientific Linux.

    Yes, though Ksplice is one of the differentiators. They're looking for ways to stand out. I don't know if ASM (Oracle's filesystem/VM) and OCFS (Oracle's clustered FS) are going to be supported on RHEL long-term.

    I doubt anything is going to be supported on SuSE long-term :-)

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member

    @NinjaHawk said: @Kujoe any update?

    Nope, I don't expect a reply until next week since they have standard support hours for normal clients.

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  • DamianDamian Member

    So has anyone noticed any opensource-type projects in the works with similar functionality?

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  • TazTaz Disabled
    edited July 2012

    Kexec?

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member
    edited July 2012

    Here's the response I got:

    Ksplice is a feature of Oracle Linux Premier Support, which is only for systems running Oracle Linux. If you would like to purchase support for other RHEL-based systems you should contact Oracle Linux Support directly (http://www.oracle.com/us/technologies/linux/OracleLinuxSupport/index.html).

    As a side note, Ksplice used to be sold as a stand-alone subscription. While we no longer provide this service we have not dropped support for any distributions for our existing customers.

    Best regards, Tim

    I used the "cost calculator" on the link they provided and a single server with 8 cores and 5 or more virtual guests is $1,199/year. 2 servers would be $2,398/year.

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  • TazTaz Disabled

    Mother of Oracles! @KuJoe Unless I am doing 30$ for 128Mb, I am not going to get ksplice. However anyone has experience with kexec??

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • PADPAD Member
    edited July 2012

    That's pathetic. God damn I hate corporate takeovers.

    But gotta love that Pre-Oracle account with 6 server subscriptions I've been letting run on without use for almost a year O_O

    Ebay...here I come..

  • TazTaz Disabled

    @PAD Want to sell your account ? :P

    Time is good and also bad. Life is short and that is sad. Dont worry be happy thats my style. No matter what happens i won't lose my smile!

  • PADPAD Member

    Sure, 50% off.. lets say...599$/year!

    Haha.

  • PADPAD Member

    Okay, got one of my accounts recovered.

    I have a lifetime account, I think I worked out a bug in their system ages ago when it first came out which allowed me to take advantage of this.

    I have a permanent access key which I will be willing to sell for the handsome price of 999 cookies, shipped directly to Russia, milk does not need to be included.

    Muhahahahaha, I love corporate takeovers!

  • TazTaz Disabled

    @PAD do you accept Chips Ahoy !

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  • PADPAD Member
    edited July 2012
  • @PAD how about pies?

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  • If you take the kslc from ksplice you get pie.

    Coincidence?

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  • DamianDamian Member

    I'm made out of pie.

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  • @HalfEatenPie said: The Pie is the Alpha, and the Omega.

    Actually, the Pie is the Pi.

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  • Too much pie is hurting my head, how is that possible?

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    Try running the script HalfEaten.py

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  • miTgiBmiTgiB Member

    @raindog308 said: Try running the script HalfEaten.py

    You can't just rename udp.pl to anything you want

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  • Yes it runs on my OVZ nodes. Like others have said, prevents hacks, but does not add features so occasionally a reboot can be necessary.

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