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Asking VPS companies to adopt Paygol SMS

Asking VPS companies to adopt Paygol SMS

luis123456luis123456 Member
edited September 2011 in General

What I said, I feel it is the way of the future! Sign below if you feel that SMS payments is the way of the future! It may even bump your paid client base.

It maybe a hassle, but I just signed up in seconds, and have a new PayGol A/c! But, to pay for VPS, you don't even need one account! You send in some SMS, service paid! Couldn't be more easier to pay for hosting.

There is a WHMCS module for it, uptimevps has it.

I'm looking for a sponsored KVM VPS, but I'm not in a hurry. Just want to hear what you might offer to me
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  • Are you willing to pay 2x the listed price to get a plan with it?

    Paygol's fee's are harsh!

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  • luis123456luis123456 Member
    edited September 2011

    Sometimes, yes. Better than having all the hassle of a credit card.

    Edit: 2x if total price is $7. Meaning, you bill us $3,50ish. UptimeVPS bills me 3 euro quarterly.

    I'm looking for a sponsored KVM VPS, but I'm not in a hurry. Just want to hear what you might offer to me
  • I can't find their fees anywhere which makes me say definitely not.

    Something interesting in their TOS: 15. The payout is made when your account has accumulated at least 50 EUR. Please note that the actual transfer to you will depend on country and method you have selected. In case your payment is transfered before the three months, a minimal fee will be applied.

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  • justinbjustinb Member
    edited September 2011

    luis123456 said: Edit: 2x if total price is $7. Meaning, you bill us $3,50ish. UptimeVPS bills me 3 euro quarterly.

    If your VPS is worth paypal $3,50, you get to pay $7 with paygol. Their fees are HILARIOUS.

    I can't think of a company worse than paypal until last week, when I find them.

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member
    edited September 2011

    Wow, what a SCAM! Fees = 72% of purchase price. So for a $1 order the seller makes $0.28 before any other fees and doesn't include the fee they charge to withdraw your own money if you don't want it to sit for 3 months.

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  • http://mobilefirst.com is a better alternative...

  • luis123456 said: What I said, I feel it is the way of the future! Sign below if you feel that SMS payments is the way of the future! It may even bump your paid client base.

    SMS payments are the way of the future. Just not this paygol garbage. :)

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  • KuJoeKuJoe Member
    edited September 2011

    Boltersdriveer said: http://mobilefirst.com is a better alternative...

    It's better, but Paypal still wins by $0.02/dollar.

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  • Paypal can lock your account at anytime if someone hacks it.,...

    I'm looking for a sponsored KVM VPS, but I'm not in a hurry. Just want to hear what you might offer to me
  • justinbjustinb Member
    edited September 2011

    luis123456 said: Paypal can lock your account at anytime if someone hacks it.,...

    Paygol can charge insane fees so no one will accept it except stupid people. I haven't seen that many isses with paypal. Just fax them your passport, all your information/personal documents, national ID etc, and it should be unfrozen.

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  • luis123456 said: Paypal can lock your account at anytime if someone hacks it.,...

    So? Follow good security practices, such as using complex, unique passwords on every site, changing your passwords often, not writing them down, etc, and you wouldn't have that problem. It's not PayPal's fault if you get hacked, it's yours.

  • Go59954Go59954 Member
    edited September 2011

    luis123456 said: Sometimes, yes. Better than having all the hassle of a credit card.

    Actually there are in some banks worldwide, a customized credit card, very simple (prepaid), and customized only for online payment. Recharging it is too simple, you go to the nearest branch of your bank and fill a small form mentioning the amount and your name, then hand it to the employer, during the next hours the amount will be entered to your card, that's it.

    Go to paypal.com and create an account (as easy as registering for an email!), add your credit card information to your account (an easy one-time step). And you are set.

    Most online services supports your payment method now, you simply choose Paypal, click for paying, enter your EMAIL used for Paypal account, and password, then click once more to to conform payment.

    Also, if you don't want to use Paypal, you can use your credit card directly, but it takes you longer time entering credit card information, and you may share your credit card information with that company unlike using Paypal, but you save a very little amount that Paypal cuts if you pay directly.

    If you are below the legal age for opening a credit card account by yourself, you can let your parent/someone open an account, it's usually totally free to open one, just go first to your bank and ask if they have a prepaid credit card meant for online payment/what else they have for that use.

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  • Go59954 said: add your credit card to your account (an easy one-time step)

    Luis123456 does not have a credit card

    Boltersdriveer said: http://mobilefirst.com is a better alternative...

    Does that work for people in Argentina? (where luis is)

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  • edited September 2011

    dmmcintyre3 said: Does that work for people in Argentina? (where luis is)

    Yeah it does.

  • OneBip also offer this - but it's very expensive and adds tons to the bill. However from experience kiddies like using it.

  • Just get a prepaid credit card...or maybe some sort of wally card, crap like that Payment by sms will always have pretty high charges compared to just some clicks to paypal. If then you still can't get anything because you're broke and 14 years old -- just go with a VM on your pc till you get a job or something.

  • ztec said: If then you still can't get anything because you're broke and 14 years old -- just go with a VM on your pc till you get a job or something.


    Or just pay an older friend and have him purchase the service(s) for you :)

  • If you're 14 and want a VPS that bad you're probably not going to have any friends :P

  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff
    edited September 2011

    ztec said: If you're 14 and want a VPS that bad you're probably not going to have any friends :P

    Oy! I've just turned 14 and have friends and wanted VPS's that bad, and got em!

    luis123456 said: Paypal can lock your account at anytime if someone hacks it.,...

    Dont get hacked then!

    Back on topic anyway, I think the SMS thineys thing charges too much. I tried it with Tech-Hosts.co.uk. I think SimplexWebs has it too but I found better ways like PayOffline, unfortunately PayOffline do not accept new companies.

    Just post some money to a close by company to you. I did that to QualityServers, they did charge for the inconvenience of posting cash but still..

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  • luis123456luis123456 Member
    edited September 2011

    ztec said: Just get a prepaid credit card...or maybe some sort of wally card, crap like that Payment by sms will always have pretty high charges compared to just some clicks to paypal. If then you still can't get anything because you're broke and 14 years old -- just go with a VM on your pc till you get a job or something.

    Well, I'm not broke, and sorry, but my ISP block ports. I'm not 14 also. No one sells prepaid cards here.

    Infinity said: Dont get hacked then!

    How? I don't control hacker's wishes!

    Edit: I have VPS. I didn't said I wanted one. I just said I want companies to adopt PayGol, nothing more.

    I'm looking for a sponsored KVM VPS, but I'm not in a hurry. Just want to hear what you might offer to me
  • luis123456 said: Well, I'm not broke, and sorry, but my ISP block ports. I'm not 14 also. No one sells prepaid cards here. Else, do you think I will be asking for nearly free? Think it again.

    Get a bank account, debit card.

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  • luis123456luis123456 Member
    edited September 2011

    justinb said: Get a bank account, debit card.

    Sorry but no. atleast no at this time.

    I'm looking for a sponsored KVM VPS, but I'm not in a hurry. Just want to hear what you might offer to me
  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff

    luis123456 said: Well, I'm not broke, and sorry, but my ISP block ports. I'm not 14 also. No one sells prepaid cards here.

    I think luis is more like 17. I'm the 14 year old here!

    luis123456 said: How? I don't control hacker's wishes!

    True, but make your account secure etc. I'm just wondering why my dad's PayPal hasn't got hacked in the last 4 years or so he's had it.

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  • luis123456 said: How? I don't control hacker's wishes!

    Use Paypal's 2FA, etc.

    luis123456 said: Sorry but no. atleast no at this time.

    That is your problem.

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  • dmmcintyre3dmmcintyre3 Member
    edited September 2011

    Infinity said: I think luis is more like 17. I'm the 14 year old here!

    He is 19.

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  • Get your friend to buy stuff for you and pay them back in cash...

  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff

    Boltersdriveer said: Get your friend to buy stuff for you and pay them back in cash...

    Maybe I don't have friends then.. I asked all of my friends, none of them trusted me. They think because I am good at computers etc. that I will hack them.

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  • Infinity said: They think because I am good at computers etc. that I will hack them.

    Get smarter friends

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  • Get your friend to buy stuff for you and pay them back in cash...

    Seconded.

  • As you see, quite a many of us are on the same train.

    However we did manage to get our VPS.

    I'm looking for a sponsored KVM VPS, but I'm not in a hurry. Just want to hear what you might offer to me
  • luis123456 said: Sorry but no. atleast no at this time.

    So you expect companies to adopt a payment method that will cost them more money than if you spent 30 minutes and obtained a bank account? I'm not sure if you're just lazy or ignorant, but based on a lot of your comments on here and other sites I'm going with the later.

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  • luis123456luis123456 Member
    edited September 2011

    KuJoe said: So you expect companies to adopt a payment method that will cost them more money than if you spent 30 minutes and obtained a bank account? I'm not sure if you're just lazy or ignorant, but based on a lot of your comments on here and other sites I'm going with the later.

    Hmm, AFAIK, here in Argentina it isn't 30 minutes, it can take you a full day, or upto some months.

    Boltersdriveer said: Get your friend to buy stuff for you and pay them back in cash...

    Trust me I just thought of that.

    I'm looking for a sponsored KVM VPS, but I'm not in a hurry. Just want to hear what you might offer to me
  • Still, you're going to need a bank account someday. Better do it now you got some time to waste then when you really 100% need it.

  • I don't see why people don't just get a bank account with a debit card, or use prepaid or virtual cards. If none of those options are available to you, you have bigger problems than your inability to obtain a VPS.

  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff
    edited September 2011

    miTgiB said: Get smarter friends

    How mean! :P They are smart in some ways but fail to realize that I don't know a thing about hacking! They are my school friends etc. Anyways, I don't really need it anyway, I didn't start this, I've got what I need for free anyways.

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  • I believe people like Luis would be able to get a bank account AND a debit card, whereas Infinity would not be able to do so due to age constraints (getting a debit card)

  • There are accounts in some banks for young people... like >14 years, with the permission of their parents

  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff

    yomero said: There are accounts in some banks for young people... like >14 years, with the permission of their parents

    Not in this country. I'm allowed a bank account but no credit or debit card. No cheques. Only money in it. I am using it for savings anyway so I don't want to take out money, I want to save up for uni.

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  • So you expect companies to adopt a payment method that will cost them more money than if you spent 30 minutes and obtained a bank account? I'm not sure if you're just lazy or ignorant, but based on a lot of your comments on here and other sites I'm going with the later.

    If a company writes that, then I will definitely not buy anything from them. They want to sell their stuff so they should also have some idea of customer service and allow the customer to pay. Have you seen any burgershop that sells only when you bring in gold? Probably not. Even though it is more reliable and stable than the shacky dollar or euro. But then again US companies are anything but customer friendly and are not capable of looking outside the box. They just live in their glass dome and expect everything to work like they are used to. Just compare UK based companies with the US ones. You will be much more friendly served here in the UK than in the colony.

  • MrAndroidMrAndroid Member
    edited September 2011

    Infinity said: Not in this country. I'm allowed a bank account but no credit or debit card. No cheques. Only money in it. I am using it for savings anyway so I don't want to take out money, I want to save up for uni.

    I got a bank account at 11, and a VISA Debit card at 13

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  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    I got a bank account at 11, and a Debit Card at 13.

    It may surprise you, but there are indeed rules that are still in the hand of the national sovereignty. ;-)

  • kylix said: They want to sell their stuff so they should also have some idea of customer service and allow the customer to pay.

    Have you not read anything in this thread? PayGol takes 72% of every dollar so even if a company doubled their prices, they still wouldn't be able to cover their costs (assuming the costs aren't already overpriced as is). I highly doubt any VPS company on LEB or LET would be in business if their sole income was from PayGol. Who here would spend $30+/year on a 128MB BuyVM VPS when it's selling for $15/year normally?

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  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    @KuJoe: As you could see from my comment I wasn't referring to one specific company offering payment methods. I was referring to the openness towards payment methods in general. Most US based companies do not go beyond the unrelaible CC payment. There are much better methods available that are additionally then usable by persons in countries where you do not get a CC right away. And I'm not talking about third-world countries here. Take Europe as an example. The CC is not really common. We have something called EC-cash which works much better. Paypal i.e. is just so successfull in Europe because it was the only US based payment provider that allowed us to use EC-cash. So you could simply pay US companies with your well known EC-cash and did not have to care about getting a CC somewhere.

    However, paypal is not the best nor is it the only payment method possible. There are other ways of payment methods possible that might be much better for the customers.

    And then, speaking about this specific company, if the customer wants to use a specific payment method, what hampers the provider to make special prices for special payment methods (except paypal due to tos)? I.e. if I pay cash I normally get a 3% rebate in some European countries. If I pay on normal invoice I won't. If I pay by wire-transfer which is initiated by them I again save some %.

  • Daniel said: I got a bank account at 11, and a VISA Debit card at 13

    I got my first bank account at 3 months old and Visa Electron at 10 years old.

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member
    edited September 2011

    kylix said: what hampers the provider to make special prices for special payment methods

    Most hosting-specific billing systems do not allow separate pricing. That being said, I would be pretty mad if I went to go buy something and found out it was more than double the price if I paid using a specific payment method. But even if they did, I don't think anybody in the world would pay $30/year for a 128MB BuyVM VPS when you can buy them for $15/year normally.

    kylix said: Most US based companies do not go beyond the unrelaible CC payment.

    Can you please provide some EU-friendly payment providers? I'm only familiar with Paypal, Google Checkout, and 2Checkout. We're always looking to add more payment provider options but, as you said, being US-based I really don't know what other countries prefer or use (I've never even heard of EC-cash before just now so any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated).

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  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff

    KuJoe said: Can you please provide some EU-friendly payment providers? I'm only familiar with Paypal, Google Checkout, and 2Checkout. We're always looking to add more payment provider options but, as you said, being US-based I really don't know what other countries prefer or use (I've never even heard of EC-cash before just now so any information you can provide would be greatly appreciated).

    If you are talking about credit or debit, visa works just fine here. Barclays bank transfer is good. Visa is your best bet TBH.

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  • kylix said: If a company writes that, then I will definitely not buy anything from them. They want to sell their stuff so they should also have some idea of customer service and allow the customer to pay. Have you seen any burgershop that sells only when you bring in gold? Probably not. Even though it is more reliable and stable than the shacky dollar or euro. But then again US companies are anything but customer friendly and are not capable of looking outside the box. They just live in their glass dome and expect everything to work like they are used to. Just compare UK based companies with the US ones. You will be much more friendly served here in the UK than in the colony.

    There is a difference between a proven successful sane payment method and a fly by night piece of crap that takes nearly 100% in fees and refuses to pay out.

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  • GaryGary Member
    edited September 2011

    To the people who can't get debit/credit cards, surely you could add your bank account to paypal, and use direct debit or your country's equivalent to fund your account?

  • InfinityInfinity Retired Staff

    Gary said: To the people who can't get debit/credit cards, surely you could add your bank account to paypal, and use direct debit or your country's equivalent to fund your account?

    Some dont trust PayPal. I would trust putting my credit card on PayPal but not really my bank account.

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  • kylixkylix Member
    edited September 2011

    Can you please provide some EU-friendly payment providers?

    @KuJoe: PaySafeCard, Clickandbuy, Moneybookers, Infin Payment, Tunz.

    There is a difference between a proven successful sane payment method and a fly by night piece of crap that takes nearly 100% in fees and refuses to pay out.

    Again, I wasn't speaking about one specific company. My text dealt with the situation in general.

    I don't think anybody in the world would pay $30/year for a 128MB BuyVM VPS when you can buy them for $15/year normally.

    If that's the reasoning than world-wide payment wouldn't make sense at all for Europeans as we can get that even cheaper and more reliable (same legal base due to EU regulations) here at home.

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