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Vultr now in Frankfurt (Germany)

BradBrad Member

Vultr has finally opened their 12th location, Frankfurt, Germany.

Great News!

Vultr.com has added additional capacity in our Frankfurt location!

Launch your high performance instance today by going to:

https://my.vultr.com/deploy/

As of this post, all of their locations are available and in-stock. It sure is better than having only 4 locations. Check them out at http://Vultr.com if you haven't already.

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  • lelewkulelewku Member

    vultr is so much better than DO..

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  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2014

    Is it singlehomed like their UK location?

    They don't provide much info on transit etc. Got a tonne of credit at vultr and I don't know how to use it.

  • serverianserverian Member
    edited May 2014

    @Infinity said:
    Is it singlehomed like their UK location?

    They don't provide much info on transit etc. Got a tonne of credit at vultr and I don't know how to use it.

    Create one for an hour and test? lol

    Use this tool and see how many different routes does it take: http://tracert.com/trace_exe.html

  • AThomasHoweAThomasHowe Member
    edited May 2014

    I still don't have my new card to sign up for the trial... hopefully it'll be here next week. At first I was pretty enamoured by DO but it's pretty standard service once you get used to the panel and stuff, just slightly higher quality than most at the same price. I really like the number of locations Vultr has available. That name, though...

    e: seems I missed it. Oh well.

  • trexostrexos Member

    The routing is still very bad, get 100ms from Germany. Wtf?

  • VladorzVladorz Member

    @trexos said:
    The routing is still very bad, get 100ms from Germany. Wtf?

    how can you get 100ms from Germany? i get under 40ms from Romania

  • trexostrexos Member
    edited May 2014

    @Vladorz

    It routes German connections to the US, see here:http://www.dnstools.ch/visual-traceroute.html

    Test IP from Vultr: 108.61.112.204

    Ping:

    Ping wird ausgeführt für 108.61.112.204 mit 32 Bytes Daten: Antwort von 108.61.112.204: Bytes=32 Zeit=111ms TTL=53 Antwort von 108.61.112.204: Bytes=32 Zeit=111ms TTL=53 Antwort von 108.61.112.204: Bytes=32 Zeit=119ms TTL=53 Antwort von 108.61.112.204: Bytes=32 Zeit=111ms TTL=53

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    40 ms to frankfurt is the norm here. However, if routing goes to london, then paris then vienna then back to germany, you might get 100 ms.

  • VladorzVladorz Member

    i am aware of the old 'long routes => cheap routes' but i wasn't aware of such bad routes that would actually leave the country just to get back

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited May 2014

    Vladorz said: such bad routes that would actually leave the country just to get back

    As a romanian you should remember the upc/rds wars with routing through vienna, I remember one time even mediasat going over alternet in israel and coming back through romtelecom, but that was more than 10 years ago during the collapse of KPNQwest when internet used to cost an arm and a leg.

  • J1021J1021 Member

    Infinity said: Is it singlehomed like their UK location?

    They don't provide much info on transit etc. Got a tonne of credit at vultr and I don't know how to use it.

    Used ping.ms to run a traceroute from locations all over the globe and they all have tinet as last hops before Vultr.

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  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep
    edited May 2014

    @1e10 said:
    Used ping.ms to run a traceroute from locations all over the globe and they all have tinet as last hops before Vultr.

    @serverian said:
    Use this tool and see how many different routes does it take: http://tracert.com/trace_exe.html

    I'm well aware but that takes effort.. :(

    Have to find my login, wait for instance to deploy and that.. I'm a lazy sod.

  • Great!!

  • J1021J1021 Member

    Infinity said: I'm well aware but that takes effort.. :(

    Have to find my login, wait for instance to deploy and that.. I'm a lazy sod.

    I just said I used the tool and they use only Tinet.

  • InfinityInfinity Member, Host Rep

    @1e10 said:
    I just said I used the tool and they use only Tinet.

    Oh, see I'm not even bothered to read. ;p

    Thanks for that.

  • boerndboernd Member

    10ms from unitymedia germany.
    not bad

  • Infinity said: Is it singlehomed like their UK location?

    Yes looks like that, no direct peering on DE-CIX or something only upstream is tibet:

    1 gateway.ipv4.fra.filemedia.net (62.113.205.1) 0.198 ms 0.186 ms 0.198 ms 2 193.159.224.81 (193.159.224.81) 0.407 ms 0.403 ms 0.392 ms 3 193.159.167.158 (193.159.167.158) 0.588 ms 0.583 ms 0.610 ms 4 xe-2-0-0.fra61.ip4.tinet.net (89.149.184.65) 12.885 ms xe-8-3-0.fra61.ip4.tinet.net (141.136.108.46) 0.632 ms 0.639 ms 5 choopa-gw.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.64.86) 0.856 ms 1.013 ms 1.165 ms 6 108.61.112.204.choopa.net (108.61.112.204) 0.922 ms 0.917 ms 0.905 ms

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    fileMEDIA said: only upstream is tibet

    That is really upstream

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  • not bad for $5/month

  • sitsuitsitsuit Member

    I hope they will open one in singapore

  • WilliamWilliam Member

    maybe the gameservers.com Africa/South America locations are next?

  • B1g4B1g4 Member
    edited May 2014

    @sitsuit said:
    I hope they will open one in singapore

    Wishing the same here. There's a huge market for cheap VPS in Singapore.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited May 2014

    At $150 & $250 per terabyte of b/w overages in JP and AU, it's hard to be excited for any further exotic locations from Vultr. At least they should have a setting to lock the VPS rather than burning any extra credit you have due to some config mistake or attack/flood at your server.

  • J1021J1021 Member

    rm_ said: At $150 & $250 per terabyte of b/w overages in JP and AU, it's hard to be excited for any further exotic locations from Vultr. At least they should have a setting to lock the VPS rather than burning any extra credit you have due to some config mistake or attack/flood at your server.

    If you had just a few files on a site, what is to stop you taking a snapshot and just creating a new VM to get a new 100GB of bandwidth each time you come close to the limit?

  • BradBrad Member

    @1e10 said:
    If you had just a few files on a site, what is to stop you taking a snapshot and just creating a new VM to get a new 100GB of bandwidth each time you come close to the limit?

    You'll still be charged for the VM you destroyed, but only for the period you used.

  • J1021J1021 Member

    Brad said: You'll still be charged for the VM you destroyed, but only for the period you used.

    If you're using say 80GB a day with static files, it would be cost effective to do that.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited May 2014

    1e10 said: If you had just a few files on a site, what is to stop you taking a snapshot and just creating a new VM to get a new 100GB of bandwidth each time you come close to the limit?

    That's one of the complex questions these "cloud" providers have to face. Well you do have a point, so maybe such locking should be per account per location. Also what you described currently seems to be a workable way to get "free" extra bandwidth regardless of whether b/w overage is charged, or gets you locked.

    In any case, I consider it unacceptable that someone with an unmetered gigabit server can easily burn hundreds of dollars from my Vultr account just by running wget in a loop overnight (after finding some large file on my website first).

    Does not help that Vultr encourages having those hundreds of USD on your account balance in the first place, via the "double your first payment" deal.

  • @Brad said:
    You'll still be charged for the VM you destroyed, but only for the period you used.

    bingo.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited May 2014

    Brad said: You'll still be charged for the VM you destroyed, but only for the period you used.

    ashafesky said: bingo.

    You both doooooooooooon't get it, for example in the Australia location each VM comes with 100 GB of bandwidth; create a VM, use 99GB, destroy the VM; then repeat with a new one. Can create and destroy 5 VMs and that way use about 500 GB, just paying the hourly rate for each. But if you used 500 GB on one VM without destroying, that'd cost you 400*$0.25 = 100 USD instantly just for the bandwidth overage alone.

    That's a loophole shared by many hourly rate cloud providers, I'm not sure if there's curently any countermeasure against this at Vultr.

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  • BradBrad Member

    @rm_ said:
    That's a loophole shared by many hourly rate cloud providers, I'm not sure if there's curently any countermeasure against this at Vultr.

    I am aware of this. I misunderstood @1e10 and thought he was talking about the server itself, not the bandwidth.

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