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"Small" dedicated server or VPS?
I currently have (amongst others) a VPS (1.5G ram - 20gb disk - ipv4/ipv6) with ISPConfig used as mail/webserver. The provider is seening abuse (without more info then that) while we don't see that.
I'm wondering should I go for another VPS or for a small dedi? (seems I can have one for around 10 euro at Kimsu - other offers are welcome)
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Are you spending more than 300 emails an hour? edit:"as some providers could see that as abuse even if legit emails"
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The system is NOT sending any mails.
The server is MX record for several domains and receives mail, we collect it via pop3 and put it in remote mailboxes. We don't send any mail via it.
@dirk that's odd must be an IO issue .
@Maximum_VPS: the question was to get some advice on getting a VPS or dedicated for it
Are you actually insinuating that spammers are welcome to your service?
@joelgm No it was a general question as some providers could see that as abuse even if legit emails... Thought that was obvious, edited the post.
@dirk Sorry was trying to help, maybe try another vps provider before choosing dedicated for the reason of cost savings.
Dollar for dollar in the sub $20USD/month range, you're typically going to find more computing resources by going with VPS than a dedicated server. The key is finding out why they considered your usage as abuse. You don't want to simply move VPS provider to VPS provider and continue to be marked as an abuser.
If you want a cheap dedicated could try a delimiter x5150 for $20 month if paid quarterly or I believe it was $16/month if yearly. They also do atoms pretty cheap.
If you don't need full dedicated resources, go with a vps.
@catalystium the dedis @delimiter don't have ipv6 and that's a "must" for me.
They do, I have a /64 for my dedi with them.
@dirk No idea about that, I believe the two I have with them doesn't have any IPv6 so I assume you have to request it. Lets see what @MarkTurner says.
The comparison between VPS and cheap server is really hard and you must know what type of abuse you are doing to be able to decide.
if it was related to cpu then a cheap dedicated server is better choice.
if it was related to IO then mostly a good VPS will be a better solution since those cheap dedicated servers comes with bad drives in general (lower speeds and very old)
also you should consider the availability of the server as cheap dedicated servers has higher probability to go offline for longer periods due to hardware issues specially if one harddisk dies while VPS servers in general are more protected and use higher end hardware that has less probability of failing.
on the other hand VPS has higher probability to go offline for shorter priods due to some other tenant abuse.
So use these facts and understand your exact need and abuse nature and decide based on that
thanks
any offers for a "good" vps with ipv4 & ipv6, 20gb disk and 1.5gb ram?
@dirk you might want to say where in the world you want service
I would prefer in EUrope but that is not a must
How much ipv6 ip's are needed?
@rds100 usually has great deals on Bulgarian dedicated servers.
We offer a 2 GiB VPS at $16/mo with 50% off your first month or quarter with coupon: IF051VUJ3H
It has more than enough disk space (120 GiB) and has both IPv4 and IPv6.
If 1 GiB of RAM is sufficient, the price can be halved to $8/mo but still keep the discount.
However, I would recommend you try and work it out with your current provider first on why you were marked to be abusing
@AzueVPS: current provider says we abuse because we send too much mail, while we only use it as MX for our domains (all the users are local and we know what they are doing) and we use other servers for the normal mail sending.
We're currently running on a backup solutions.
@Floris: 1 "real" (not tunneled) ipv6 address is enough.
MXes can also cause lots of outgoing emails (backscatter), depends how they are configured.
We're working on adding IPv6 support on our nodes, I'll come back to you with an offer when it's done.
@dirk - Of course we have IPv6 at all our datacentres!
We don't mind REAL outgoing mail, but if its spamvertising / spam then we don't want it on our network.
@MarkTurner as said before we don't even use that server to send mail to others, it's one of our MX servers that receives mail for our own domains. Don't think I ever send 1 mail via that server/vps.
@dirk - so no problem. Depending on the volume something as simple as one of Delimiter's Atoms would fit the bill.
So if you are not sending any emails but the provider says that you are sending emails, maybe it's open for relay.
@tomle it was checked several times and it's not an open relay.
@MarkTurner I send mail to delimiter about the Atom but didn't get a reply (yet)
Its the weekend so you probably won't get a fast reply.
@dirk - Email [email protected] and Steve will be able to help you.
@MarkTurner: I send it originaly to [email protected], just resend it to the other address...
@MarkTurner: server ordered...waiting for it to be provisioned