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WebAfrica VPS - 2 months for less than 1USD

gbshousegbshouse Member, Host Rep
edited November 2013 in General

Hi Gals and Lads

I found this offer in my mailbox today
http://www.webafrica.co.za/hosting/vps/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=hosting_newsletter_nov_13

TL;DR; 2 months for less than 1USD, default cheapest package around 10USD

We are using this provider for our South African DNS PoP and they are pretty nice.
They have pretty good connectivity (http://bgp.he.net/AS36943)

Cheers and enjoy

Thanked by 1ErawanArifNugroho

Comments

  • they not accept for paypal

  • gbshousegbshouse Member, Host Rep

    @blackeye - so?

  • I've asked via Live Chat, and answered nicely by Yusuf, R99 ~ $10 USD, the currency is Rand/Zar if someone did't know yet :)

  • @gbshouse said:
    blackeye - so?

    i am student and i not have a mastercard/visa for pay it

  • @gbshouse you probably just did them a very bad favour. Imagine the abuse influx...

  • gbshousegbshouse Member, Host Rep

    @rds100 - nah

  • @gbshouse, can you show me a trace to zol.co.zw ?

  • gbshousegbshouse Member, Host Rep

    @jimpop

     1  41.185.26.2  0.826 ms  0.934 ms  1.077 ms
     2  41.66.150.41  1.073 ms  1.066 ms  1.059 ms
     3  41.84.12.65  1.272 ms  1.174 ms  1.256 ms
     4  196.36.84.153  2.569 ms  2.824 ms  2.730 ms
     5  168.209.28.2  94.306 ms  94.298 ms  94.287 ms
     6  196.33.41.45  26.264 ms  25.681 ms  25.656 ms
     7  196.33.41.46  181.144 ms  181.413 ms  181.128 ms
     8  46.17.233.105  180.512 ms  180.423 ms  180.399 ms
     9  46.17.232.76  190.330 ms  190.560 ms  190.195 ms
    10  46.17.232.37  201.320 ms  192.236 ms  191.943 ms
    11  46.17.233.70  189.854 ms  190.134 ms  190.119 ms
    12  196.201.17.137  191.768 ms  191.257 ms  191.090 ms
    13  196.201.1.120  192.590 ms  192.128 ms  192.307 ms
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  • jimpopjimpop Member
    edited November 2013

    @gbshouse said:

    Yep. That's my issue with African providers... they all (except for vps.co.za, which leverages MWeb) peer with London. :-(

    Edit: and it gets worse, the further north you go, until you cross the Mediterranean.

  • BrianHarrisonBrianHarrison Member, Patron Provider

    Wow, that's quite cheap for an African provider.

  • gbshousegbshouse Member, Host Rep

    @jimpop - I would assume that you use African provider for African connectivity :)

  • @gbshouse said:
    jimpop - I would assume that you use African provider for African connectivity :)

    Impossible. It would take 20+ African VPSes to locally cover all of Africa, otherwise it's best to stick with London.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    gbshouse said: I would assume that you use African provider for African connectivity :)

    I think his point is that different African providers connect with each other only in London.

  • Ordered one for 4p apparently. Awaiting activation.

  • gbshousegbshouse Member, Host Rep

    @rm_ - it all depends, we have picked this provider because presence in NAPAFRICA and CINX. Local connectivity is pretty good but it can be different since we are announcing our own IPs over BGP

  • @gbshouse said:
    jimpop

     1  41.185.26.2  0.826 ms  0.934 ms  1.077 ms
     2  41.66.150.41  1.073 ms  1.066 ms  1.059 ms
     3  41.84.12.65  1.272 ms  1.174 ms  1.256 ms
     4  196.36.84.153  2.569 ms  2.824 ms  2.730 ms
     5  168.209.28.2  94.306 ms  94.298 ms  94.287 ms
     6  196.33.41.45  26.264 ms  25.681 ms  25.656 ms
     7  196.33.41.46  181.144 ms  181.413 ms  181.128 ms
     8  46.17.233.105  180.512 ms  180.423 ms  180.399 ms
     9  46.17.232.76  190.330 ms  190.560 ms  190.195 ms
    10  46.17.232.37  201.320 ms  192.236 ms  191.943 ms
    11  46.17.233.70  189.854 ms  190.134 ms  190.119 ms
    12  196.201.17.137  191.768 ms  191.257 ms  191.090 ms
    13  196.201.1.120  192.590 ms  192.128 ms  192.307 ms
    

    Compare that 192ms to the 46ms from Vps.co.za

    traceroute to zol.co.zw (196.27.110.18), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  197-85-186-1.cpt.mweb.co.za (197.85.186.1)  0.446 ms  1.088 ms  1.139 ms
     2  196.41.144.34 (196.41.144.34)  0.623 ms  0.680 ms  0.820 ms
     3  gigabitethernet5-1.cpt-hscore-1.mweb.co.za (196.28.178.65)  0.712 ms  0.846 ms  1.067 ms
     4  197-84-5-225.cpt.mweb.co.za (197.84.5.225)  28.129 ms  28.195 ms 197-84-5-226.cpt.mweb.co.za (197.84.5.226)  27.416 ms
     5  tengig0-0-0-0.vic-p-2.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.35)  29.084 ms  29.171 ms tengig0-7-0-1.vic-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.47)  28.635 ms
     6  197-80-7-37.jhb.mweb.co.za (197.80.7.37)  25.146 ms  24.906 ms  25.001 ms
     7  liquidtele.jinx.net.za (196.223.14.55)  27.259 ms  27.430 ms  30.896 ms
     8  46.17.233.105 (46.17.233.105)  180.101 ms  180.164 ms  177.051 ms
     9  P2-HRE-g1-1-7.liquidtelecom.net (46.17.232.76)  40.613 ms  39.448 ms  39.475 ms
    10  46.17.232.37 (46.17.232.37)  73.253 ms  72.932 ms  70.224 ms
    11  46.17.233.70 (46.17.233.70)  39.528 ms  39.088 ms  36.158 ms
    12  zol-ecoweb.zol.co.zw (196.201.17.137)  44.556 ms  41.360 ms  41.563 ms
    13  neptune.zol.co.zw (196.201.1.120)  50.415 ms  45.280 ms  46.882 ms
    
    Thanked by 1jimpop
  • Only 10gigs of traffic? That's a bit depressing.

  • @darknyan said:
    Only 10gigs of traffic? That's a bit depressing.

    Bandwidth is expensive in Africa, just like in Asia

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    ErawanArifNugroho said: Bandwidth is expensive in Africa, just like in Asia

    Actually it looks to be an order of magnitude worse than in Asia.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    And 50 cents a GB is beyond bad. Perhaps that is why paypal cant be used.

    Thanked by 2Sentinel Gunter
  • Interesting that the default user isn't root (though it's sudo-enabled so it doesn't matter much) and they default to port 5252 instead of 22.

  • CentaurCentaur Member
    edited November 2013

    @DomainBop said:

    Those tests to zol.co.zw is interesting.

    Some other Zimbabwean sites route correctly within South Africa, from Cape Town to J'oburg to Zimbabwe. But it just seems like most routings aren't optimized for Eastern African countries on the SEACOM cable side from Cape Town.

    For example my server in the MTN DC in Cape Town:
    Traceroute to zol.co.zw:
    traceroute to zol.co.zw (196.27.110.18), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 41.204.208.155 (41.204.208.155) 0.027 ms 0.008 ms 0.007 ms 2 41.204.208.99 (41.204.208.99) 1.927 ms 1.971 ms 1.936 ms 3 41.204.206.36 (41.204.206.36) 0.633 ms 0.784 ms 0.727 ms 4 41.203.6.41 (41.203.6.41) 0.653 ms 0.674 ms 0.762 ms 5 ge5-0-0.gw2.cpt1.za.mtnbusiness.net (196.30.176.34) 0.672 ms 0.706 ms 0.704 ms 6 196.7.21.18 (196.7.21.18) 0.546 ms 0.441 ms 0.437 ms 7 tb-cr-1.za--tb-cr-2.za-a.mtn.net (196.44.31.158) 1.353 ms 1.477 ms 1.550 ms 8 am-cr-2.nl--tb-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net (196.44.31.213) 157.010 ms ls-cr-2--tb-cr-1.uk-b.mtnns.net (196.44.31.113) 145.082 ms am-cr-2.nl--tb-cr-1.za-a.mtnns.net (196.44.31.213) 157.105 ms 9 ls-cr-1.uk--ls-cr-2.uk-a.mtnns.net (196.44.31.156) 144.439 ms ls-cr-1.uk--am-cr-2.nl-a.mtnns.net (196.44.31.154) 156.690 ms ls-cr-1.uk--ls-cr-2.uk-a.mtnns.net (196.44.31.156) 144.419 ms 10 ls-pr-1.uk--ls-cr-1.uk-a.mtn.net (209.212.111.83) 144.964 ms 144.902 ms 157.456 ms 11 g0-0-1.luk-pr1-th0.liquidtelecom.com (195.66.224.68) 144.596 ms 156.994 ms 144.629 ms 12 pe1-tho-G0-0-1-0.liquidtelecom.net (5.11.10.106) 333.812 ms 346.440 ms 334.177 ms 13 p1-tho-TenG0-0-0-0.liquidtelecom.net (5.11.10.102) 334.833 ms 334.119 ms 334.586 ms 14 P2-JHB-pos8-1-1.liquidtelecom.net (46.17.232.43) 339.732 ms 327.337 ms 327.146 ms 15 46.17.233.105 (46.17.233.105) 326.239 ms 338.291 ms 326.242 ms 16 P2-HRE-g1-1-7.liquidtelecom.net (46.17.232.76) 394.106 ms 394.555 ms 394.290 ms 17 46.17.232.37 (46.17.232.37) 335.066 ms 335.857 ms 335.593 ms 18 46.17.233.70 (46.17.233.70) 334.340 ms 346.909 ms 347.389 ms 19 zol-ecoweb.zol.co.zw (196.201.17.137) 348.614 ms 336.222 ms 348.521 ms 20 neptune.zol.co.zw (196.201.1.120) 339.093 ms 354.404 ms 338.984 ms 21 * * *
    As you can see it goes via Cape Town -> UK -> JHB -> Zimbabwe

    But some other sites route correctly, but it does go via Mweb (probably peering). But I think Mweb has optimized their routing for Africa, because of Internet Streaming of DSTV into Africa.
    For example to Mozambique from Cape Town:
    traceroute to www.uem.mz (196.3.96.21), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 41.204.208.155 (41.204.208.155) 0.024 ms 0.007 ms 0.006 ms 2 41.204.208.99 (41.204.208.99) 2.239 ms 3.010 ms 3.044 ms 3 41.204.206.36 (41.204.206.36) 0.623 ms 0.738 ms 0.764 ms 4 41.203.6.41 (41.203.6.41) 0.641 ms 0.687 ms 0.780 ms 5 ge8-0-0.gw1.cpt1.za.mtnbusiness.net (196.30.176.33) 0.618 ms 0.640 ms 0.754 ms 6 196.44.0.74 (196.44.0.74) 0.906 ms 0.551 ms 0.562 ms 7 196-28-178-141.adsl.mweb.co.za (196.28.178.141) 1.222 ms 1.185 ms 1.263 ms 8 197-84-7-1.cpt.mweb.co.za (197.84.7.1) 25.955 ms 25.992 ms 25.984 ms 9 tengig0-7-0-1.vic-p-1.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.47) 25.858 ms 25.955 ms tengig0-0-0-0.vic-p-2.mweb.co.za (197.84.4.35) 25.509 ms 10 197-80-7-37.jhb.mweb.co.za (197.80.7.37) 21.617 ms 21.644 ms 197-80-7-5.jhb.mweb.co.za (197.80.7.5) 25.159 ms 11 197-80-4-170.jhb.mweb.co.za (197.80.4.170) 22.461 ms 22.467 ms 25.863 ms 12 xe-9-0-0.jnb-201-access-3.mpls.seacomnet.com (41.217.213.130) 42.823 ms 39.296 ms 39.277 ms 13 xe-10-0-0.mtz-201-access-3.mpls.seacomnet.com (41.217.213.146) 72.159 ms * 72.155 ms 14 xe-7-0-0.mpm-201-access-1.mpls.seacomnet.com (41.217.213.210) 39.271 ms 42.629 ms 42.623 ms 15 41.87.103.54 (41.87.103.54) 39.418 ms 39.426 ms 39.424 ms 16 196.3.99.5 (196.3.99.5) 43.858 ms 40.544 ms 40.536 ms 17 tl.uem.mz (196.3.96.21) 43.502 ms 43.488 ms 39.912 ms

    Webafrica is using an IS datacenter in Cape Town, so they are using a Teraco DC in Cape Town, which is pretty much next door to the MTN CT DC. http://www.teraco.co.za/locations/cape-town.html

    The bandwidth is kinda shocking with these VPS offerings, considering Mweb's VPS offerings give you "unlimited" bandwidth ( http://www.mweb.co.za/productspricing/2/Business/Hosting/Virtual_Hosting.aspx ), but they might let you sign a contract. Mweb is super sneaky with things like that. And I don't know if you can directly get a VPS with them if you live outside SA. And that WA offers unlimited on their shared hosting. So 10GB per month is crap for minimum. But the cheapest is still the offerings from http://vpsnine.com , which uses Hetzner's Cape Town DC = MTN CT DC

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